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Other nominations[edit]

I always have trouble with User:SNUGGUMS and User:Snooganssnoogans, but I think that's more about the hash function my brain uses when reading names than actual confusion. --JBL (talk) 11:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If it helps, my name is the shorter of the two. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 13:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably I'm the only person who has a problem with User:Sphilbrick and User:SMcCandlish (I mean, they both start with S and ... have a hard C sound?) --JBL (talk) 18:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As well as Coffee and CoffeeCrumbs, there’s also User:Coffeeandcrumbs, which certainly confused me. P-K3 (talk) 18:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, I changed my signature for that reason. I have no objection to being added. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 18:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I hate to admit it since I have worked closely with them but, I sometimes confuse Masem and Maile, since they are both sysops and work in similar areas (i.e. projects leading to the Main Page). --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 18:38, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have been confused with User:FloNight before, especially when others in the conversation referred to me as "Flo" (though I won't go hunting for a diff). If this is of any use to anyone, feel free to add. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:00, 7 June 2020 (UTC) p.s. it's possible this is how I inexplicably got elected to ArbCom... --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:01, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But now it's no longer inexplicable, since this could explic it. :P E Eng 17:56, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Everyone's free to edit the list directly. EEng 00:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh dear, are we? Andrewa (talk) 18:49, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know of anyone who might be confused with me (maybe ferret?) but I'm just confused in general. creffett (talk) 14:04, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've definitely gotten names wrong in type. Kind of a product of my brain and some sort of strange dyslexia/misattribution, and it's only getting worse as I get older. Anecdotally, away from the keyboard, my brain enjoys addressing other people by wrong names. Such as addressing my brother by my son's name, or vice versa. I'm fairly certain I'm a product of my parents' misguided intentions. Leitmotiv (talk) 06:11, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greylist[edit]

I'm guessing that the editor who proposed this for G6 speedy doesn't want to be listed.

If so their wishes should be respected, along with anyone else who objects to inclusion. Not sure whether to call this a blacklist or whitelist, so let's call it a greylist. Nor what to do if they also object to being on it.

And not sure what to do when one of the confusants wants in and the other wants out. Maybe suggest that the agreeable confusant set up and disclose an alternate userid so as to allow their inclusion, without needing to name the objecting confusant? (I first typed in "disagreeable confusant" but then thought no, not good.) Or is that just more confusing? (;-> Andrewa (talk) 18:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~I'd suggest anyone who doesn't want to be on the list should just remove themselves from it. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 18:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)~~[reply]

Certainly they should be encouraged to do so. But that doesn't go far enough IMO. If someone is repeatedly added against their wishes, for example, I would think they had a right to be annoyed.

So maybe it's also good form to ask their permission first, maybe by pinging them here rather than cluttering their talk page which could also be annoying, and regarding no reply as a "no". That would also leave a record here of their objection-by-default. Andrewa (talk) 19:04, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree if someone was repeatedly added against their wishes, they'd have a right to be annoyed, but I think it's extremely unlikely that there will be a problem with repeated re-additions, and if there is, an HTML comment (like "") should be all that's needed. Of course, my optimism here may be related to my inexperience. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 19:14, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed my mind over the past year; this has become too useful of a reference, and should be maintained, even over the objections of listed editors. Editors with similar usernames should be listed for everyone else's benefit. Levivich ^harass/_hound 03:50, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Levivich on just delete oneself; no need to make some new page-specific "procedure" to listed or de-listed from here. If this is actually found to be a repeating problem, we can then go ahead and create a list of anyone who removed themselves or others from the list so others know they shouldn't be re-added without discussion. The list could be here in talk, but I think a simple hidden comment in the article's list would do.

Note the user in question was specifically named in the original article title, since removed, so this is likely a singular case; there's no evidence this is a problem needing our attention yet. --A D Monroe III^(talk) 19:18, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia:Editors who don't want it known that they may be confused"?--WaltCip (talk) 20:54, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipeda:Editors who have or have not stopped beating their wives. E Eng 21:30, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please, respect diversity: Wikipeda:Editors who may be confused about whether they have stopped beating their significant other. --A D Monroe III^(talk) 03:51, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Though it's conceivable I've misread the tea leaves, I'm guessing that the person who made the G6 nomination does not, in fact, object. I think it's a bit early for removal requisitions and countermands filled out in triplicate on prenumbered forms memorialized in a blockchain archive. E Eng 21:30, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously anyone who objects to being included here should just demand to speak to the manager, call 911, and finally report EEng to ArbCom. Separately, should "Greylist" go on line 17 with Grayfell and Graywalls? --JBL (talk) 22:00, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- People might just think we're overreacting. Better to create a bot to randomly select a panel from the non- Category:Wikipedians with red-linked categories on their user talk page to try the offending Wikipedian on charges of being hillariously unfunny. We could call it CLOWNCOM. Andrewa (talk) 08:12, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  Organizing a Clowncom is a great idea. Its jurisdiction could be:
  1. Impose discretionary laughter (WP:CC/DL) upon talk pages;
  
  2. Oversee placement of {{humor}} tags;
  and if we want to be funny,
  
  3. Official enwiki liaison to the WMF. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 04:42, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@EEng: I think it should be understood that if an editor removes their name, for whatever stated reason, that their express permission should be sought before re-adding their name again. I should NOT have had to remove my name TWICE. If it's added a third time, I WILL nominate the list for AFD and report the offender to ANI. And I may perhaps buy the offender some glasses/contacts. BilCat (talk) 00:00, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I interpreted your edit summary ("Not likely" [1]) as meaning you found it unlikely that you would be confused with someone else. In restoring the entry I simply explained [2] that I'd had the personal experience of confusing you with Bilorv. It pains me that I misunderstood you. There are over 300 users listed, and AFAICT you're only the third to get his nose out of joint.

Anyway, there's a permanent record here of your belligerent and overwrought objection, which we can only hope will deter others from incommoding you further. E Eng 00:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I incorrectly assumed that because this list wasn't on your userspace that you'd ask before re-adding it. Next time I have to revert you, I'll try to remember to be "belligerent and overwrought" the first time so you'll get the point and not repeat your error. BilCat (talk) 01:02, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just being clear will be sufficient. E Eng 01:21, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Asking first before re-adding would be even better. BilCat (talk) 01:28, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Explained above. Someone sure got up on the wrong side of the keyboard today. E Eng 01:31, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's what happens when you add people to lists they don't want to be on, and then act like they did something wrong. BilCat (talk) 04:55, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As you've so graciously recognized at the MfD, it was an understandable misunderstanding on my part, so I don't see why you've gone back to giving me grief. E Eng 05:19, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CLOWNCOM[edit]

There is many a serious word said in jest. In fact all the best humour has an undernote of tragedy.

See User:Andrewa/How not to rant#Linking to this page.

And that is why humour can be so constructive. Food for thought? Andrewa (talk) 18:21, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, what does this have to do with this page? EEng 18:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- About the only thing that looks in-place here is that unflattering BoJo image, considering that this is an EEng-authored talk page.--WaltCip-(BLM!Resist The Orange One) 18:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm afraid I find it (added here with no signature or useful edit summary) quite out of place. Andrewa (talk) 20:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Poor Boris... There's just no place for him to fit in, it seems.--WaltCip-(BLM!Resist The Orange One) 11:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Has he tried doing the Monster Mash? Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 09:00, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- I was replying to this post above. Sorry if I didn't make that plain. Andrewa (talk) 20:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  Agreeing with Levivich is always on topic, on any page. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 15:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  I agree with ~~Levivich~~ Leitmotiv. --JBL (talk) 15:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  Please try to stay on topic. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 19:07, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  
  I agree of course. E Eng 18:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  Is this where the agree party is at? Totally agree! Leitmotiv (talk) 18:37, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  
  Disagree. I think you may be confusing them with someone else. Andrewa (talk) 02:58, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29E6GbYdB1c --Guy Macon (talk) 04:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Boris was always at his best (worst) on HIGNFY. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 09:50, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bewhat?[edit]

A diff to the "wacky comedy-of-mistaken-identity" where Beland became, or was mistaken for, Begoon, to cause its addition to this page, would satisfy this poster's curiosity, maybe... -- Be-mused 12:56, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Name change required[edit]

I'm very confused most of the time, and yet I dont appear. Can somebody do something? -Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 10:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[3] E Eng 12:50, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was a bit confused myself when I read the title. TornadoLGS (talk) 04:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Truly a non-humorous article?[edit]

Hello! So a while back this was considered a humorous essay. However it was later changed to not be a humorous essay. Now when I look at this it makes me think it really is a humorous essay that does have an actual use (which there are actually humorous essays that have real uses, like WP:BEANS). So I have to ask, what exactly makes this essay non-humorous? ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 14:53, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Although if someone thinks it should be a confusing essay instead I'm all for changing it to that. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 14:54, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Now when I look at this it makes me think it really is a humorous essay that does have an actual use". That's what ha ha only serious is all about. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 15:49, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

i am totally confused what is going on here Metmoney (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Metmoney, you've been here less than a month and don't appear to have ever taken part in a talk page discussion with other editors. Plus your user name isn't listed here. I wouldn't worry about it. Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I sense no worry on Metmoney's part. They say they're confused, and as we know this is the page for confused editors. So everything's going according to plan. E Eng 21:46, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

yes i am new, learning things Metmoney (talk) 04:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rename?[edit]

Any objections if I move this to Wikipedia:Editors with similar usernames? I keep seeing Wikipedia:Editors who may be confused show up on my watchlist, and it sounds like a list of editors who are perpetually confused. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:52, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the current title is much funnier than your proposed one. Also, this was tried and rejected: the move history is Wikipedia:List of users with really, REALLY confusingly similar names (like Dr.K. and DrKay) → Wikipedia:List of editors with really, REALLY confusingly similar names (like Dr.K. and DrKay) → Wikipedia:Editors with confusingly similar names → Wikipedia:Editors you might confuse → Wikipedia:Editors who may be confused:

Date	From	To	Performer	Comment
2020-05-27T03:43:00Z	Wikipedia:List of users with really, REALLY confusingly similar names (like Dr.K. and DrKay)	Wikipedia:List of editors with really, REALLY confusingly similar names (like Dr.K. and DrKay)	EEng (talk \| contribs)
2020-06-06T16:13:16Z	Wikipedia:List of editors with really, REALLY confusingly similar names (like Dr.K. and DrKay)	Wikipedia:Editors with confusingly similar names	EEng (talk \| contribs)	Don't want anyone to feel singled out
2020-06-06T17:18:43Z	Wikipedia:Editors with confusingly similar names	Wikipedia:Editors you might confuse	EEng (talk \| contribs)	more general
2020-06-07T01:15:55Z	Wikipedia:Editors you might confuse	Wikipedia:Editors who may be confused	EEng (talk \| contribs)	It's too good an opportunity to pass up (and please note that I'm on the list)

So in short, please don't. —Kusma (talk) 22:26, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha. That's impeccable research. I withdraw my un-funny suggestion, with apologies ;-) –Novem Linguae (talk) 23:18, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I just realized ... is peccable a word? E Eng 02:09, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out the answer is: Yes, it is. You learn something new every day. E Eng 02:10, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peccable - "capable of sinning". Makes sense, I suppose. The word for sin in Spanish is "pecado". Now let me go find some holy water. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:38, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's also where we get 'peccadillo from', like what admins have :)

I've added some gender equality to the page, hope it fits into the spirit. SN54129 15:10, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New decree: no two editors may have usernames which begin with the same letter[edit]

It has come to the attention of the Supreme Cabal Regime of the English Wikipedia that having usernames which begin with the same letter is too confusing. To avoid this confusion, a new decree (note that decrees are exempt from WP:IAR) has been issued prohibiting multiple usernames which begin with the same letter. Please sign up to keep your current username below. Mass renames will commence at 00:01 UTC on April 2, 2024.^[4-1] For the Supreme Cabal Regime of the English Wikipedia, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 01:16, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The obvious queestion of course would be mass renames to what? I guess usernames that start with non-letters since there's no rule against that. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:27, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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