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3rd Battalion 3rd Marines[edit]

While this article isn't ready for an FA review (I still need to expand the Vietnam section) I think there's enough here for an overall analysis. In particular, I'm interested in A) what the article needs and B) what it doesn't need. I know my Medal of Honor/Navy Cross tables are going to get axed, so if anyone has an idea on how to convert that into prose I'm all ears. Palm_Dogg 09:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:IvoShandor[edit]

A couple of quick comments, more to come later.

  • The America's Battalion section is mostly blockquoted from a source. I would recommend paraphrasing that and then either incorporating it elsewhere or expanding it enough that it merits its own section.
  • As for the tables on the Navy Cross and MOH recipients I would do a couple of things. The first thing I would do is create a main article, something like List of 3rd Battalion/3rd Marines who received the Medal of Honor and just put my tables and affiliated references there. Then you can come back to this article and sum up the most important few in a paragraph or two and just reference the main article:
    See also: List of 3rd Battalion/3rd Marines who received the Medal of Honor
    .
  • Since we are on the subject of awards, most of the awards in the "unit awards" table (which should go as as well) are not unit awards unless there is something I am unaware of regarding the Marine Corps and unit awards.
  • The lead should conform to length and other requirements found at WP:LEAD.
  • 3rd Battalion won its first Medal of Honor when Private First Class
  • I haven't read the whole article but suspect it is in need of copy editing. I don't believe MOHs are "won" per se, more like received or earned.
  • Contradictory: 3/3 did not see major action again until the fall of 1966 when it moved north to the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ), but continued to conduct regular combat operations against the enemy. (EDIT: Or at the least, very confusing. IvoShandor 11:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC))[reply]

These are just at a glance. I will analyze the article more thoroughly when you respond to the points above. : ) IvoShandor 11:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Responded to above-mentioned points. I haven't been able to make the Medal of Honor page yet, but have pulled the table anyway. Regarding the Unit Awards, I want to keep that since it pertains directly to the battalion. However, I have added a few sentences explaining what it means. Palm_Dogg 01:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
While that is helpful it just confirms what I was saying. Your source indicates that the unit won "streamers" which are attached to guide ons I believe. What you have pictured are award ribbons for individual personal medals. IvoShandor 03:04, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OMG! I'm an idiot. Replaced the ribbon images with streamer images. Palm_Dogg 12:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
We all have those moments. : ) IvoShandor 12:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You probably noticed but the text still refers to the medals. IvoShandor 12:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, as the tree said to the lumberjack, I'm stumped. They're obviously refering to the same thing, the problem just lies in the actual Medal pages. Palm_Dogg 20:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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