Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/School shootings in the US

Obama on school shootings[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 12 Oct 2015 at 17:10:20 (UTC)

Original – President Obama's statement after the Umpqua Community College shooting

Reason: EV, video quality, and poignant message
Articles in which this image appears: Umpqua Community College shooting, List of school shootings in the US, Gun politics in the United States
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/USA History
Creator: White House

Support as nominator – Nergaal (talk) 17:10, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good quality; high EV. RO^(talk) 18:10, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, quite right, I agree with Nergaal on Nergaal's assessment of the Encyclopedic Value of this media file that Nergaal has chosen to put forth as a Featured Picture candidate. I've also gone ahead and used the same media file on Wikisource, at s:Statement by the President on the Shootings at Umpqua Community College, Roseburg, Oregon. My thanks, to Nergaal, for his choice of nominating this High Encyclopedic Value media file for Featured Picture consideration. Most appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 20:34, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – Although I view this as one of Obama's best public statements during his tenure as president – and I drew attention to it Oct. 1 here at WP:ITNC – I don't believe it's appropriate as an FP, for a couple of reasons: a) It deals with an event that, alas, probably will recede from public discussion fairly soon, and b) it may be construed by some as a political ~~statement~~ endorsement. I suggest that instead a link to the video be added to Umpqua Community College shooting. (Note FP criteron No. 5.) Sca (talk) 22:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It IS in the article you mentioned and I believe the video passes FP? #5 by covering the reactions segment of the shooting article well. Ah, and I added it to the gun politics article too since it actually summarizes the debate in that article really well too. Nergaal (talk) 22:27, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry – I stand corrected about the article. (Thought it was just a photo.) Sca (talk) 00:34, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support This is relevant regardless of how current or not. --Janke | Talk 08:18, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant to what? Sca (talk) 14:49, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant to gun violence, whenever and wherever it happens. --Janke | Talk 17:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but does that mean that, if or when there's another crazy-mass-shooting in the U.S., we hurry up & run this as a kind of editorial FP? Sca (talk) 20:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose without prejudice Its too soon for me to be in a position to judge whether this is worth enough of an FP star, especially since this is neither the first nor the worst such shooting stateside. It'd be better, I think, to wait on this kind of nom until the media Tarzans find their next vine to swing to so we can judge the worthiness of speeches like this without the momentum of the current event itself to influence our perspective of it. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:09, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Those concerned about this unfortunately perennial topic may find this interesting. (See also.) – Sca (talk) 13:33, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I think TomStar raises an important point, but I also note that we seem to get a lot of Obama noms; I'm concerned about filling up our galleries with photos of the same person, especially when he's a person so popular with our editors. Josh Milburn (talk) 08:13, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PS: – This user has long opposed official photos of serving politicians of whatever stripe, and the same principle applies here. Note also that the P tweeted this video on TWTR Oct. 1. Sca (talk) 14:37, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Which user? I don't think I have... Josh Milburn (talk) 19:47, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Crisco, get the broom. Sca's speaking of himself in the third person again. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:38, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(L'utilisateur, c'est moi!) Sca (talk) 14:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per others. --Tremonist (talk) 13:09, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 17:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]