User talk:Wehwalt/Archive 25
Administrators' newsletter – January 2024[edit]
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
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Political bosses[edit]
Hey, thanks for your edits on William McKinley. It's the first time I've seen this term, and it was in quotes in the Platt article. Sometimes these terms are used in quotes if they are not in common use anymore. The article for political boss was not helpful for my understanding this article, and that seems important, so maybe I will work on that instead. My main source of confusion is fixed in the article now after your edits, so I don't think we need anymore talk page for the time being. Cheers, Eunomia libri (talk) 23:47, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your interest. I think the term derives from Boss Tweed. Wehwalt (talk) 00:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Quarter sovereign scheduled for TFA[edit]
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 20 February 2024. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 20, 2024, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/February 2024. Please keep an eye on that page, as comments regarding the draft blurb may be left there by user:dying, who assists the coordinators by making suggestions on the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work! Gog the Mild (talk) 21:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of Quarter sovereign[edit]
CS1 error on History of the New York Jets[edit]
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Great article on Avery Brundage[edit]
Thank you for such an excellent article. It is a wonderful world (talk) 06:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 60[edit]
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Issue 60, November – December 2023
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Presidents opening line[edit]
Why are you so intent on doing something that is not the proper way of opening a biography? People are 99% of the time in biographies defined by nationality and occupation. Bill Clinton is an American politician. Why are you so obsessed with changing that for James K. Polk and Millard Fillmore among others? Makes no sense whatsoever. Plus, remember you don't own the articles (so you should stop reverting edits that you just "don't agree with"), and editing patterns for other US presidents do matter. I see you constantly reverting on all of those presidents articles. Please review WP:NOOWNERSHIP. Paul Vaurie (talk) 02:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- You should seek consensus rather than blind reverting. What policy mandates what you want?--Wehwalt (talk) 02:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I will wait to hear from you on this rather than restoring. Please keep in mind that there are existing consensuses, and per WP:CONSENSUS it really is you who have the burden of building consensus.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:52, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- How am I the one who is "blind reverting" when I made the change and you were the first to revert? There was nothing about my initial edit that was unconstructive. This is just how things are done. We define biographies by nationality and occupation. Also, most presidents of the United States are politicians, and the only thing notable about them isn't being president. Even if Millard Fillmore hadn't become president, he would probably have had a Wikipedia article today, which would have been defined as "an American politician who [...]". There is no reason the presidency should be the only way to define someone's entire biography. Writing an "American politician" and also incorporating that his most important post was president of the US is a way to show that yes, this was his most prominent role, but he was in a broader context a politican, and had a career. I don't understand the upside to just saying "the 13th president of the Unites States". I clearly explained why writing "politian" or "politician and lawyer" (whatever it maye be) may be more beneficial, but I don't see how omitting that helps anyone. Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:01, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I am assuming this is about the dispute in Richard Nixon. I have to notice there have been multiple reverts about the first sentence. I will take the liberty to point out a few relevant policies.
- Per Achieving consensus through editing,
All edits should be explained (unless the reason for them is obvious)—either by clear edit summaries, or by discussion on the associated talk page. Substantive, informative explanations indicate what issues need to be addressed in subsequent efforts to reach consensus. Explanations are especially important when reverting another editor's good-faith work.
If your first edit is reverted, try to think of a compromise edit that addresses the other editor's concerns. If you can't, or if you do and your second edit is reverted, create a new section on the associated talk page to discuss the dispute.
- Per Consensus can change,
Editors may propose a change to current consensus, especially to raise previously unconsidered arguments or circumstances... by discussion or editing. That said, in most cases, an editor who knows a proposed change will modify a matter resolved by past discussion should propose that change by discussion. Editors who revert a change proposed by an edit should generally avoid terse explanations (such as "against consensus") which provide little guidance to the proposing editor (or, if you do use such terse explanations, it is helpful to also include a link to the discussion where the consensus was formed).
- Per WP:TALKDONTREVERT,
The quality of an argument is more important than whether it represents a minority or a majority view. The arguments "I just don't like it" and "I just like it" usually carry no weight whatsoever.
- I think the discussion about the modification of the first sentence should be in the article's talk page. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 01:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Thinker78: Thank you. Wehwalt— I suggest we move this discussion to the talk page of either Richard Nixon or Millard Fillmore. I'll leave to you the honors of doing so. Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think that since you are arguing that yours is the only "proper way" to begin such a biographical article, that you must begin a discussion at the appropriate MOS talk page. Anything else allows WP:LOCALCON local consensuses at variance with the MOS to form, for example that in existence at Richard Nixon. Wehwalt (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- One option could be Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography (most relevant section of the guideline may be Lead section), provided it covers presidents in general probably. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 18:48, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't particularly love pushing their main claim to notability to the end of the first sentence, but that's what MOS:BIOFIRSTSENTENCE advises. The conversation ought to be on that page. (Edit: just realized that's the same link Thinker just shared.) Ed [talk] [OMT] 20:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- One option could be Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography (most relevant section of the guideline may be Lead section), provided it covers presidents in general probably. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 18:48, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think that since you are arguing that yours is the only "proper way" to begin such a biographical article, that you must begin a discussion at the appropriate MOS talk page. Anything else allows WP:LOCALCON local consensuses at variance with the MOS to form, for example that in existence at Richard Nixon. Wehwalt (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Thinker78: Thank you. Wehwalt— I suggest we move this discussion to the talk page of either Richard Nixon or Millard Fillmore. I'll leave to you the honors of doing so. Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I will wait to hear from you on this rather than restoring. Please keep in mind that there are existing consensuses, and per WP:CONSENSUS it really is you who have the burden of building consensus.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:52, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- You should seek consensus rather than blind reverting. What policy mandates what you want?--Wehwalt (talk) 02:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
2024[edit]
Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you today for Brooklyn Dodgers 1, Boston Braves 1 (26 innings), about "the longest MLB baseball game in terms of innings ever, and probably with rule changes the longest there will ever be"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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Thank you for improving articles in January! I remember Ewa Podleś on the Main page, and have - believe it or not - two musical DYK. Shalom chaverim. On vacation, with something for your sweet tooth --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Today: the performance of Anna Nekhames --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Today a friend's birthday, with related music and a few new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2024[edit]
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).
- An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
- Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
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Comments on FA nomination of Knowledge[edit]
Hello Wehwalt, I wanted to let you know that I nominated the article Knowledge for featured article status, see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Knowledge/archive1. There has been little response so far and I was wondering whether you might be interested in taking a look. If you have the time, I would appreciate your comments. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
{{hatnote group}}[edit]
Hi,
I've been de-cluttering "other uses"-type hatnotes lately, and just now came across this wrapper template for the first time ever. Which brought back memories of you complaining about "wasting prime real estate" at the top of articles in a couple of threads a couple of years ago. So I thought I'd pass on the link, on the off-chance that you weren't already aware of it either. :)
- 2A02:560:5821:6C00:D584:82D:3700:9815 (talk) 14:37, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
March 2024 GAN backlog drive[edit]
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Promotion of Morgan Bulkeley[edit]
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Congratulations! And thank you for scheduling March! - Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm very sorry for his passing. Wehwalt (talk) 23:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Improving that article was tough - too much emotion. Missing Vami IV is tougher. - Thank you today for Quarter sovereign, about "the smallest coin in the sovereign range. It doesn't have as long a history as the others, but there's still something to be said about its history, both in the 19th century and more recently." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I was very sorry to hear about Vami. Wehwalt (talk) 19:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! - More music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I was very sorry to hear about Vami. Wehwalt (talk) 19:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Improving that article was tough - too much emotion. Missing Vami IV is tougher. - Thank you today for Quarter sovereign, about "the smallest coin in the sovereign range. It doesn't have as long a history as the others, but there's still something to be said about its history, both in the 19th century and more recently." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2024[edit]
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).
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- Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
- Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.
- The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)
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- Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.
Books & Bytes – Issue 61[edit]
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Issue 61, January – February 2024
- Bristol University Press and British Online Archives now available
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A barnstar for you![edit]
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Hello,
I did not want to crowd up errors with more words, but I just wanted to say, thank you for being friendly, despite my inexperience in the TFA space! Thank you very much! Geardona (talk to me?) 15:22, 6 March 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks. Don't be discouraged. If you see something, let us know. Wehwalt (talk) 15:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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thank you for the encouragement! - today in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this, and of Vami - I nominated his article Ludwigsburg Palace for TFA rerun on 1 June, but later saw that his most recent one, Boundary Fire (2017), matches the same day, - none of them is closely related to the date, - schedule as variety considerations make it look best. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you today for Philadelphia Athletics 18, Cleveland Indians 17 (1932), about "one of the most peculiar but exciting games in Major League Baseball history. You'd expect a pitcher who gave up 14 runs and 29 hits to lose the game, or at least not be the winning pitcher wouldn't you? But on the afternoon of July 10, 1932, Eddie Rommel did win that game, coming in as a relief pitcher and pitching 17 innings, and thereby lies a tale ..."! - listen to my story today, thinking of Vami_IV - and the composer is pictured on the Main page, and the discussion on the talk leaves much to be desired ... dona nobis pacem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
I uploaded vacation pics (from back home), at least the first day, - and remember Aribert Reimann. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you today for Royal Maundy, introduced (in 2010): "Royal Maundy is one of those quirky British ceremonies which fascinate everyone else. I believe it has survived as is because of the enthusiasm of the Queen, and something would be lost if her successors do not keep it up. In my opinion, this may well be the best resource on the ceremony out there, as the two books I'm aware of on the ceremony are a bit dated. Thanks to Malleus for looking over, and to Fasach Nua for giving a preliminary check on the images." - those were the times. How fitting today! - I tried to remember Bach's St John Passion on Good Friday, 300 years after the first performance, and was told no it has to be on 7 April, because that was the date of the first performance, - teh rulez. - The Passion on White Sunday, however, doesn't work for me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2024[edit]
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).
- An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.
- The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
- An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
- Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
Promotion of 1912 suspension of Ty Cobb[edit]
Hi Wehwalt. I always hate doing this, but since my FAC for David J. Brewer continues to languish without reviewers, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look? There's a cameo from Joseph B. Foraker and a thirty-something William Howard Taft—two Wehwalt FAs in one sentence! Hope you're well. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Aston Martin DB9[edit]
Hello Wehwalt, apologies for this approach, but would you mind reviewing this article (Aston Martin DB9) at FAC? Source review and image review have passed, so I'm extremely enthusiastic, as we have only five FAs on automobiles. Best, and don't feel obliged, 750h+ | Talk 09:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
TFA[edit]
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Thank you today for Morgan Bulkeley, about "a Gilded Age politician like many another, except that he's in the Baseball Hall of Fame because in 1876, when yet another baseball league was being organized, he was asked to be president, and this happened to be "the league that lasted", as one book about it puts it, the National League. He also had the guts to oppose Teddy Roosevelt and William Howard Taft over the infamous Brownsville Affair, and he spent almost half a century as president of Aetna Life. What more can you ask?" -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? - I was undecided so show three versions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
The statue is of Hildegard of Bingen, and as it happens, her Physica is on the Main page today, and Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below (on my talk) three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Alas, having moved to Florida, I no longer get the cherry blossoms. Still, we have flowers enough. Wehwalt (talk) 19:47, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Surprise! I have good memories of that area, having travelled with friends who lived in Miama. - Thank you today for Kurt Vonnegut, a 2015 collaboration "about the late author Kurt Vonnegut. Always sardonic, and always funny"! - Can you perhaps help me copy-editing Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine, with further explanatory prose in the related DYK nomination (on the article talk)? - I have - as you see on my user page - five RD articles to take care of (two on the Main page, one to be nominated today, one soon, one to look at today - Dr. Blofeld made the start), so sadly little time, on top of my language deficiencies. On a brighter note: the music pictured on my talk, and don't miss my story ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Congratulations to another FA (seen below)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- update: the copy-edit tag on the orchestra is gone, one sorrow less --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page - yesterday I went to a great recital with many anti-war songs by Jewish composers whose music was banned by the Nazis. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 62[edit]
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 62, March – April 2024
- IEEE and Haaretz now available
- Let's Connect Clinics about The Wikipedia Library
- Spotlight and Wikipedia Library tips
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024[edit]
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).
- Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.
- Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
- The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.
- This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
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FAC mentoring[edit]
Hello. I am mentoring for FAC. I've worked hard on the Sarah Geronimo article. Do you mind checking on the article? Also, if there are issues needed to be addressed before FAC nomination, please mention it here/ ScarletViolet (talk • contribs) 03:57, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I'm not able to offer mentorship at the present time. I really don't have the time, but once the article is at FAC, I'll give it a review if I can.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Arnold Bennett[edit]
Really good TFA blurb! Hope you're doing well. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)