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Request on 22:03:18, 20 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Littleeasy


I see the reason the draft was declined is because "No changes/improvements since last submission." That is completely erroneous. The draft has changed, been updated, and improved significantly since it was last submitted well over three years ago, including references to well-known, independent publications discussing the subject. Please look another look at the previous submission versus the most recent one and you'll see the changes I am highlighting and verify the draft should be ready to be approved for publication. Thank you.

Littleeasy (talk) 22:03, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I gave that as the reason because you copied an (old) revision of the page instead of requesting un-deletion. Because of this no page history is available and with the old decline above it appeared to me that no changes had been made, which would be a valid reason for declination. This leads to me not able to see if your draft has improved. However since I can't say my decline reason is correct I will revert it. This means your page will be resubmitted for review, to keep things fair I will not review it again and leave it up to another user to review it. Feel free to ask any further questions if you have them, I hope this helped. Thanks, Redalert2fan (talk) 22:22, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for Newbie Help

Thanks so much for taking the time to review and provide me with feedback on my first submission. I'd like to become a regular contributor and this has been a great entry point. I chose this subject because its just a large impacter in the community where I've grown up and since like WWII. It's a shame they haven't garnered more national coverage but there's a ton of stuff out there. I added several new references showing significant coverage from reliable secondary, independent publications. I didn't want to hit resubmit though because it said that might trigger an article deletion if I hadn't followed your feedback properly. Forgive me if this isn't proper protocol to message and ask about edits, I do want to learn to do things right and be a part of the wiki community :) Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by HIYAthatsmyshoe (talk • contribs) 17:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for reaching out! It seems you are heading the right way with the article, actively trying to improve it. You can ask others for help anytime you want. I don't think anyone would tag the page for deletion if you would re-submit it; that part is more for spam/advertisement, however it might be an idea to keep working on the page for sometime, there should be no rush to create an article, better take another few days than get declined again. Just make sure that the references you add are reliable according to WP:RS. I'll review the changes you made and help you a little on the page. There should be some work done on why the agency is notable, what they do and their history, just a general expansion seems to be in order. However we do not want to write something like an advertisement of course, per WP:NPOV. When you feel ready you can submit it again, and another user will review it. Thanks again for asking and great to hear you want to be a regular contributor. Redalert2fan (talk) 18:29, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
The edits I made are citation work and a little clean up. Furthermore I did some framework/layout, of this feel free to change or add anything as you see fit. The main priority should be to expand the page. Redalert2fan (talk) 18:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

I very much appreciate your guidance and the help learning to build a clean page with proper citations. I'm looking it over and will take the additional time like you suggested for some general expansion before resubmitting. Thanks again. --HIYAthatsmyshoe (talk) 19:40, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

FR30799386's User Scripts

Dear all. Recently, FR30799386 (talk) was blocked for sock puppetry. Among their projects were a number of user scripts that they left behind. I (DannyS712) have copied the scripts, and have taken over maintaining them. You currently import one or more of FR30799386's scripts, and I thought that you might want to import a maintained version. Links to each script are provided below.

If you have any questions, please reach out and talk to me. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out, updated! Redalert2fan (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

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Momoland

Why are you taking down Momoland's Music program wins from their Awards section? Eddierogers92 (talk) 20:19, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

As posted in the edit summary, please see the discussion on Talk:Momoland. With this I am referring to the first comment (and further explanation) provided by User:Snowflake91 who in my opinion adequately explained why they should not be included in this article. As can be seen in the edit summary of the page it was decided to remove the section until the content could be verified as notable enough to be included on the page, however per the discussion so far I do not see this happening.
Of course I recommend to read the whole section on the talk page and if you do not agree after that I suggest joining the discussion on the talk page and providing your insight on the matter. I would like to state that I am not "taking down" or wrongfully deleting anything in my opinion, I reverted the page to the last point where consensus was reached. If needed I will join the discussion at talk:Momoland in the future and we can continue there to keep the discussion in one place. Redalert2fan (talk) 21:47, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
User ‎Abdotorg has removed those awards from all articles, now lets see how many IPs would flood his talk page about unfairly removed awards, and mass reverting of course. Snowflake91 (talk) 14:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
I salute him for the effort, so far it seems there have been no problems regarding those removals. At least we have a precedent and a form of consensus to refer to now for future use. Magically the edits to Momoland seem to have stopped an no further comments at Talk:Momoland have been posted. I hope I didn't jinx anything by posting this... Redalert2fan (talk) 21:50, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Status update; Disputes have arrived as expected, for anyone please read the discussion below. Redalert2fan (talk) 17:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Users involved in this section might be interested in joining the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Korea/Popular_culture#Are_music_show_wins_notable?. Redalert2fan (talk) 11:59, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

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Michiel de Ruyter

Hi there! I am reading a book by Barry Clifford. The lost fleet. It's about the beginning of the pirate era around 1670-1690s in the Carribean. Among the pirates he writes about the dutch Michiel Adriaenszoon. Is this the same guy? And if so - did you know about his pirate history? Best regards Trond TrondLangvik (talk) 20:03,

Hello, my knowledge of this kind of history is not particular strong, the names do match but to my knowledge Michiel de Ruyter was not a pirate, certainly not around the time period you provided and in that time he was Lieutenant-admiral general of the dutch navy, the highest rank. He died on 29 April 1676 so that only falls in the early part of the era when he for sure was not a pirate. He might have been a privateer in his early days but this was only in the European region before 1640. He did go to the Caribbean (Martinique) in 1674 but this was for a war. Did this author specifically mention him to be a pirate? it might have also been a play of words from the opposing side; the enemy might have called him a pirate, but even hostile forces considered him a respected admiral/opponent. I`m afraid I can't help you further with this, maybe you can find help at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Military. Redalert2fan (talk) 12:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

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Question about Draft:Port Louis Waterfront

Dear Redalert2fan, can I please know where do I promote or write like an advertisement? I don't know how I could fix this draft, please help me. Zethical2019 (talk) 08:41, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, try to rewrite the article with a Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. The current problem is it contains a lot of Words that introduce a bias causing the article to have a promotional styling. In example inviting you to come there or something along the lines of "look at the awesome things you can do here" should be avoided.
I understand that this is not you yourself promoting or advertising, but the article should in a formal tone. Redalert2fan (talk) 10:34, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

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Draft: Russia–United States sports rivalries

Hi! Could you review my draft again? I added sources and more information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gumswick55 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for improving your draft! It seems however you have some empty sections on there so I feel like I cannon't approve it right now. Most of the time I like to let someone else do the second review actually, I'll just leave it submitted for now instead of declining. Redalert2fan (talk) 20:19, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

User:Rubybyrnee

Hello, Redalert2fan,

Thank you for tagging this article. I mistakenly reverted your edit but then deleted the page. Sorry for any revert notices you may have received. The article has been deleted. Thanks again. Liz Read! Talk! 18:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Not a problem! Thanks for your message. Redalert2fan (talk) 18:49, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Adarsh Shinde

Please refrain from tagging articles for speedy deletion for non-urgent reasons within a minute of creation. Such action violates Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers and Wikipedia:Assume good faith, both of which you link from this very page, as does your sequence of warnings to the creator of this article about a subject whose notability only takes a few seconds to establish. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Phil Bridger: While in general I can see what you intend to convey to me I feel I do need to point out that I disagree on one part, that is that this user is not a newcomer. This user has clearly been advised on the policy before (also as and on User talk:Nikhil1817) and should be able to understand policy, while I always try to assume good faith, in this case I do not feel like I was too harsh. I have no problem with waiting to tag pages in the future, that advise (and policy) is noted, and must confess that CSD:A3 should have been used instead of A1 however the policy states "the first few minutes", it took about 45 minutes in this case before any actual content was on the page making me feel like my 2nd deletion tag was not bad per se. The sequence of warnings is related to the deletion of CSD templates, which clearly state "do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself" and can be seen as such on the talk page, to me it seemed that after my first and second warning the editor was ignoring me. Even though according to you I was wrong in my tagging the user should not have removed them themselves. I feel like the message you posted above does not specifically fit this situation, though I can understand and accept that I was too quick on this the first time. On the point of notability I looked at what sourcing was on the page at the time, I do not feel obligated to do sourcing for others when their talkpage has 2 years worth of information on sourcing and how to write articles, just as you say I did not pay attention to something on my talk page this user did exactly the same. I have no problem helping people on Wikipedia if and when they ask for help, but trying to patrol new pages and drafts (which have a large backlog) in my time does not leave space for adding references to all.
Anyways I do not mean any negativity towards you with the text above (apologies if it reads like it) because I think part of my edits were certainly valid. I do actually appreciate the work you do, in this case for this page but also for others after taking a look at your contributions. If you feel like my warnings towards the user were too harsh though, I have no problem with removing them and linking to my explanation here. Redalert2fan (talk) 19:17, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Redalert2fan!

I am waiting for the post approval since 20+ days, any updates? If I need to change/add/remove something please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zethical2019 (talk • contribs) 09:22, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, since I reviewed it the first time I rather have it reviewed by another reviewer the second time. Please note that this may take 8 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. Redalert2fan (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
I have made a few edits to the page and fixed some of the problems I mentioned before. It seems a few references are still missing and need to be added. --Redalert2fan (talk) 19:49, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion tag

First of all thank you for letting me know about my inaccuracy in the user page. But, by mistake, while editing in the respective page, I did delete it the Speedy deletion tag. How can I undo that? Thanks once again

( Mog.technology (talk) 14:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC) )

If you yourself remove all the content from a page in your own userspace (blanking) it is no problem that you delete the speedy deletion tag. You can leave the page either empty, put other content confirming to policy and rules on the page or request a deletion. You can request deletion by putting only {{Db-u1}} on the page, or I can request deletion for you. Whichever you prefer. If you do not put promotional content (or that can be seen as such) on there again I'll remove the warning from your talk page. Thanks, Redalert2fan (talk) 14:12, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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Twice Sana

Hello, can you help me? I put the sources to prove that Twice Sana written the 2 songs lyrics (Even though she's already been oficial credited in the two Twice albums), but the Snowflake91 is removing, the sources are from Billboard (album tracklist photo) to one, and Naver to another. Please. (talk) 10:00, 05 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:2728:303:2500:19D0:7297:3343:C9FA (talk)

We cannot accept album tracklist photo as a source because they are copyrighted and cannot be used as proper verification. While a article from naver is fine for sourcing I see that for Summer Nights Sana is mentioned only as a co writer for "Shot Thru the Heart" which does not seem notable enough to include it by itself on Wikipedia. Songwriting sections are general used for people who's main profession is writing songs or for artist that write and perform their own solo songs. We do not have to include every single thing that exists about a person on Wikipedia, and for this the information is already included at Summer Nights (Twice album). At this time I do not think we should include this information. Redalert2fan (talk) 13:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Queen Bilqis Airways

Hi there. Thanks for your input on the Queen Bilqis Airways page. I tried searching for more information, specifically about fleet and what type of aircraft they have but it's been near to impossible to find them in English and even when I tried searching in Arabic, I was at a loss. I know people that have flown on it and can tell me what type it is but it's not credible enough IMHO so I left it blank. 

ArabianCultures (talk) 10:17, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Interesting that there is no real information available, thanks for looking anyways. If you find any good source later on please add it, Arabic is probably okay to if it comes from a reliable source. Redalert2fan (talk) 13:57, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

June 19

Sorry I completely screwed that up. Please keep up the good work! Toddst1 (talk) 16:56, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

No problem, I got your intentions. I see that I didn't revert everything or enough, I got triggered by the notorious 1.129 IP and didn't look any further. Thanks for your work too, Redalert2fan (talk) 16:58, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Questions from AimiaInc...

Hi there,

I just read your message saying that you tagged User:AimiaInc for deletion because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article. Actually, I am quite a beginner on Wikipedia and I would like to know what are the best practices to: 1- Create a company user profile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aimiainc 2- Update an existing company page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimia_(company)

I am part of Aimia staff and I own the user account 'Aimiainc'. I have been asked to update [Wikipedia page] with new information since the company is in transformation at the moment. Could you please help me? I know that the best practice is to make suggestions to the 'Talk' portion of the page but I am not sure how to do it exactly...

Please help. Thanks.

--Aimiainc (talk) 15:29, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Generally Wikipedia is not a place for a company profile, but you may WP:DISCLOSE your affiliation on your userpage and I would suggest to do so even though your username might make that clear already. Judging from your message I think you have already read Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations but if not please do so. I think we should first get your username changed since it currently is against policy and might result in a block. Per WP:CORPNAME Usernames that unambiguously represent the name of a company, group, institution or product are not permitted and Aimiainc violates that. However per WP:ISU, usernames are acceptable if they contain a company or group name but are clearly intended to denote an individual person, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", "WidgetFan87", etc. You can read information on that at Wikipedia:Changing username. Could you please do these things first and then post a message again? I'll help you with your request then. If you have any trouble with things in the message above feel free to also ask. Redalert2fan (talk) 16:25, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, As requested last week, I have changed the username (MarieE at Aimiainc). Now can you please help me to edit the page? Thanks in advance! MarieE at Aimiainc (talk) 20:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for changing your username, of course I can help you make changes as long as we follow the policies mentioned above or I can answer possible questions you might have. You could also post a question at Wikipedia:Teahouse which is a place that helps new editors, and quite possibly gives you faster answers than I do, due to that sometimes I might be busy during the week with work. If you want to propose changes on a talk page go to the article you want to propose a change for, press talk (you can find this above the title of the page) which will take you to the corresponding talk page of the article. There press "new section" and make your request. I see you are intending to update information relating to a company which of course is good to do, but please be sure to provide a reliable source because information should be able to be verified. Old information does not have to be deleted perse, things can be changed to the past tense, which might be useful to keep if it has a reference already. Please also note that not everything that a company has done has to be included, please focus on main news/noteworthy points. Can you confirm you have read the guidelines relating to a conflict of interest and the FAQ for organizations above? Also above you requested to set up a company profile, which I told you was not allowed, however we can and should at least create a userpage disclosing your COI/affiliation. I can do this for you but I will need to know if you are either wanting to improve the page out of your own interest while working for the company for free or if you have or will receive any payments for these edits made or the time it takes, no specifics required of course. Then we are fully complete and ready to go!
My apologies for all the hard work I'm giving you already before we even have made substantial edits but I hope you don't mind. The better we follow the policies the easier the work is and the more helpful editors will be. If you have questions about editing I suggest asking at Wikipedia:Teahouse, and if you want to propose changes to Aimia (company) you should post them on the talk page there if you feel the need to do so. I hope I answered the questions above, and you are welcome to continue asking questions here if that is more convenient. Thanks, Redalert2fan (talk) 19:30, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Queries for citation bot

Hello, seeing you like to run citation bot on batches of pages I'll let you know that I can always help provide lists of titles by various criteria, either by means of SQL queries or dump parsing. Let me know if that's useful to you. Nemo 21:22, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, that might certainly be useful for me. Currently I'm just doing my watchlist and some simple category runs but I have a few things on my mind that I might want to do next. I'll think up something or a few things over the weekend. Thanks again! --Redalert2fan (talk) 21:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Ok! If you have some specific things you're looking to fix, I might also be able to look for them through a few category trees (approximately), so that the bot is unleashed only on the pages where it's most likely to perform some (useful) edit. Nemo 21:57, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

August 2019 at Women in Red

August 2019, Volume 5, Issue 7, Numbers 107, 108, 126, 129, 130, 131


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Bots Newsletter, August 2019

Bots Newsletter, August 2019

Greetings!

Here is the 7th issue of the Bots Newsletter, a lot happened since last year's newsletter! You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding/removing your name from this list.

Highlights for this newsletter include:

ARBCOM
  • Nothing of note happened. Just like we like it.
BAG

BAG members are expected to be active on Wikipedia to have their finger on the pulse of the community. After two years without any bot-related activity (such as posting on bot-related pages, posting on a bot's talk page, or operating a bot), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice. Retired members can re-apply for BAG membership as normal if they wish to rejoin the BAG.

We thank former members for their service and wish Madman a happy retirement. We note that Madman and BU Rob13 were not inactive and could resume their BAG positions if they so wished, should their retirements happens to be temporary.

BOTDICT

Two new entries feature in the bots dictionary

BOTPOL
  • Activity requirements: BAG members now have an activity requirement. The requirements are very light, one only needs to be involved in a bot-related area at some point within the last two years. For purpose of meeting these requirements, discussing a bot-related matter anywhere on Wikipedia counts, as does operating a bot (RFC).
  • Copyvio flag: Bot accounts may be additionally marked by a bureaucrat upon BAG request as being in the "copyviobot" user group on Wikipedia. This flag allows using the API to add metadata to edits for use in the New pages feed (discussion). There is currently 1 bot using this functionality.
  • Mass creation: The restriction on mass-creation (semi-automated or automated) was extended from articles, to all content-pages. There are subtleties, but content here broadly means whatever a reader could land on when browsing the mainspace in normal circumstances (e.g. Mainspace, Books, most Categories, Portals, ...). There is also a warning that WP:MEATBOT still applies in other areas (e.g. Redirects, Wikipedia namespace, Help, maintenance categories, ...) not explicitely covered by WP:MASSCREATION.
BOTREQs and BRFAs

As of writing, we have...

  • 20 active BOTREQs, please help if you can!
  • 14 open BRFAs and 1 BRFA in need of BAG attention (see live status).
  • In 2018, 96 bot task were approved. An AWB search shows approximately 29 were withdrawn/expired, and 6 were denied.
  • Since the start of 2019, 97 bot task were approved. Logs show 15 were withdrawn/expired, and 15 were denied.
  • 10 inactive bots have been deflagged (see discussion). 5 other bots have been deflagged per operator requests or similar (see discussion).
New things
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September 2019 at Women in Red

September 2019, Volume 5, Issue 9, Numbers 107, 108, 132, 133, 134, 135


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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Redalert2fan,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.

Paid editing

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
  • Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
  • Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
Not English
  • A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
Tools

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.

DannyS712 bot III is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.

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October Events from Women in Red

October 2019, Volume 5, Issue 10, Numbers 107, 108, 137, 138, 139, 140


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