User talk:Redacted II

Starship Future Flights

Hey, was considering making an edit to one of the Starship pages, due to an orphaned link, but as I was looking at histories, I noticed you're almost single handedly maintaining both relevant pages at this point, so I thought it would be better to just let you know about the issue than muck things up in a way that will be just more work.

Namely, on the primary SpaceX Starship page, in the "Potential uses" section, there is an immediate link to the now defunct Future Operational Flights section of SpaceX Starship flight tests.

While the removal from that page is sensible, since indeed none of the potential future flights listed there are 'tests' (except arguably the HLS Demo), this did remove a shortlist of Starship projects from the site.

I think it would be a good idea to preserve the contents of that table somewhere, and perhaps putting it in the Potential uses" section would be best.

Whether the table's contents are preserved, the link should be removed from the SpaceX Starship page, as it is no longer functional. 2001:4C4E:1B89:100:A1A3:B911:325E:62DB (talk) 05:09, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

If you have an edit you want to make, make it!

A list of Starship launches page, IMO, is a better solution, and I can start hammering out a draft. Redacted II (talk) 13:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Here's a link to the draft. Redacted II (talk) 14:09, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

The draft appears perfectly fine. Made some slight edits for hopefully clearer language in section titles, and removed duplicates of the same mission from different sections. (HLS Demo was listed both for 2025 and 2026, but as it currently sits as NET 2025, thought it's best to leave it only in 2025.)

I think it would be best to list only the next 2/3 years' launches with full detail (i.e. refuel launches), and leave other future missions in the bottom section, as missions further out than 2-3 years could very easily get shifted around at this point or even get the full dearMoon treatment.

One detail that might need changing, is the number of HLS Demo/Artemis refuels. Apparently after IFT-3, they decided to change the height of Starship (perhaps the booster as well), and with that came the claim that the number of refuels needed in orbit will also lower. Off the top of my head, I recall the number 8 being mentioned, but I can't seem to find an article about it on short notice.

It might be best to let it go live with the 20 refuel number, and then correct it later if someone can find a reliable source about the new suggested number, though I'll try and look for the article again when next I have some free time. 2001:4C4E:1B89:100:5013:2438:9C86:3731 (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

The most recent number for refueling (after the stretched starship) is 15, so we should continue to go with that Redacted II (talk) 21:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Sounds fine. Honestly, after trying and failing to find the 8 figure, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just something someone claimed somewhere that my memory mixed up with the 15 figure. 2001:4C4E:1B89:100:5013:2438:9C86:3731 (talk) 01:57, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

There are multiple sources for the 6-8 figure:

Original NASA contract, Shotwell interview in February, ect, ect.

So whoever made that claim wasn't lying. Redacted II (talk) 12:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)