User talk:Oitchy

Hey there, was reading through the talk section of Lea Haggets page and was wondering how you knew so much about her (life)!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordship246 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

I knew her personally Oitchy (talk) 07:13, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Any chance you have a phone number or social media i can add you on to talk about it further ? Lordship246 (talk) 01:09, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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Lea Haggett

Hi, the reason I removed your edit in April is not because I don't believe it, but because we need a source to confirm that someone died. I've been unable to find one, so if you know of somewhere online that can be used to confirm the information you added, could you let me know and I will add it to the page as a reference, thanks. L1975p (talk) 19:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

May 2019

Hello, I'm Huntthetroll. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Question Time seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Huntthetroll (talk) 14:51, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I hope you can see this - apologies, as unsure where to reply to you

When you say "seems" you are expressing opinion. My additions/alterations, as pointed out in my explanation, are facts, and as such the "neutrality" about which you are concerned is not an issue. Please refute the facts as I have set them out or reinstate. With thanks, best etc, Oitchy

Thanks for engaging constructively! As I'm sure you understand, most articles on Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Therefore, one of the core guidelines for users is to provide citations and information about further reading whenever possible. An encyclopedia becomes a more reliable source of information in direct proportion to the ability of readers to verify that information using external sources. In the case of Question Time, your edit included two significant statements without any way for readers to verify them:

• That allegedly frequent appearances by Nigel Farage indicate a change in the typical composition of Question Time panels ("this traditional approach has changed of late with a certain Nigel Farage appearing to be a season ticket holder"); and
• That "profuctionn [sic] company Mentorn have recently had problems with the partiality if certain of their staff such as Alison Fuller Pedley."

Additionally, as you rightly pointed out, phrases like "seemed less than neutral" (my phrasing) and "appearing to be" (yours) indicate someone's interpretation, which can suggest that an opinion is being presented. However, this is by definition most problematic in articles, and much less so on talk pages, which are the natural and logical place to share opinions. Nevertheless, if there has been a controversy in publicly available media about Farage's appearances or staff bias, I encourage you to incorporate professionally and neutrally written information about it into the article, as long as such information is properly cited. Cheers! Huntthetroll (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Lea Haggett. Additionally, please refrain from writing abusive and insulting edit summaries. Huntthetroll (talk) 16:31, 13 May 2019 (UTC)