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July 2017

Hello, I'm KylieTastic. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Dishnica have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. KylieTastic (talk) 19:24, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

KylieTastic hi I think you got a false positive. This is an alternate account of User:Yalens-- I locked myself out there were with the Wikibreak enforcer and I gotta get off here-- and the Bektashi Order is indeed a mystical Sufi order that is linked to Shiite views within Islam, so I'm not sure what the issue is. Thanks. --Kalinthos (talk) 19:26, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

• Hey, sorry my mistake it got flagged on dubious recent changes and I miss-read (as I guess the rating system did) as changing Muslim to "Shite-leaning mystical". Sorry about that. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:31, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Rilindja

Hey Calthinus, I am using some of the content, sources and the way of explaining the roots of the Rilindja you have used on you draft. Hope you do not mind this yegg. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:39, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Ktrimi991 Absolutely, go ahead haha. I keep meaning to get to this but my life is rather busy right now and it's one of those things I keep having to put off. But I did gather those sources also so others can use them, that's why Wiki is a collaborative project. Also, if you want to suggest edits, you can divide my user subpage with a "------" and put your stuff below it and I will slowly integrate it. Cheers, ---- Calthinus (talk) 17:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Great. You have placed some notes on the draft about content you want to add from specific pages of some sources. I have access to them so I can add the content and help you finish the draft quickly. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah I have all these papers on my computer and notes about where the statements I intend to cite are. The final version exists in my head. It just needs to be realized. I can send you the sources if you'd like Ktrimi991. -- Calthinus (talk) 18:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Great. Send the sources to me. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:18, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail Ktrimi991. Tell me which ones you want. ---- Calthinus (talk) 18:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Hey Calthinus, I added some stuff on the socio-economic impact of the French Revolution on the Albanian society. There are some other sources that elaborate on the issue, but I am not going to be much active for a while. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:58, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I added this [1]. The Rilindja was a continuation of the Albanian revolts and cultural activities, not an unrelated process. Should not some of the recent stuff be added to the Albanian nationalism pages? Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:05, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

AMES

Hey Calthinus, I opened a SPI before you [2]. Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:44, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Goddammit Ktrimi haha. Guess I shouldn't try to do your job ;). ---- Calthinus (talk) 04:22, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Editing my signature

Can I assume that this edit to my signature was an accident? Please be more careful. @Nishidani: Zero^talk 01:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Zero0000 You mean that there is one less zero there? Well I certainly dont remember making such a change. The device I use for wiki sometimes has a glitchy touch feature so sometimes that stuff does happens though usually if I accidentally delete something, it's a few lines so idk. Not sure why accidentally deleting one zero in someone's name is something so significant to be honest, unless there is something I missed?---- Calthinus (talk) 01:24, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

In the edit Zero linked to, while adding your comment, you accidentally zorroed somehow a zero, leaving the name redlinked. It was a glitch, but when I saw it I (a) identified the prose as Zero's (b) yet still worried that it might have been an IP hack. I didn't, as Zero has, check back to see how the error occurred. I checked his contribs, saw it registered as his edit, and temerariously fixed it. That's all. Zero was just saying, when you make an edit, check the page to see its changes are those you wish to make. Nishidani (talk) 10:53, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

It's no big deal, but altering my username meant that the link to my home page wouldn't work, so others could be confused about who made my edit. Incidentally, pings only work if you use them in the same edit in which you also save your signature like ~~~~. They don't work if you add them to an existing text without adding a signature too, even if the existing text has a signature already. Zero^talk 12:02, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Okay, well it is not likely to occur again, and I'm, uh, sorry about this. Cheers guys, ---- Calthinus (talk) 13:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Your !vote at Talk:Gjon Kastrioti

Could you also please comment on the alternative suggestion of moving the page to "John Castriot" or similar. Regards! --T*U (talk) 14:46, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

TU-nor if you want to start a new request to move to John Castriot you may do so. It was not the proposal made by Xhfg. If you're curious, my vote would be Oppose.-- Calthinus (talk) 14:52, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Fair enough! No, I am not starting a RM to JC. I think I will support it if anyone does, though. Depends a bit on how old the Gjon and John sources are. Regards! --T*U (talk) 16:48, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

TU-nor To be honest I don't really have that much of a stake in things like this (in principle, if "John Castriot" is indeed used by many and more new sources, I should support it) -- they are not the article content which matters a lot more -- but there is wiki history here and my fear that these frequent move discussions are counterproductive, destroying goodwill and preventing productive work in the mainspace. For Skanderbeg's father, there is context. Editors have variously pushed views that Albanians are "not native to the Balkans" (totally fringe-- "native to Albania" is not proven but "native to the Balkans" is basically the academic consensus), "Albanian culture is rather poor and mostly consists of borrowings from their neighbors", Albanians "do not have a history" with all their national heroes allegedly being some permutation of Greek/Turk/Serb/Italian/etc, Albania is some fake nation and a "creation of Austro-Hungary, Italy and the Vatican" who (somehow unfortunately?!!) stopped Serbia from "cleansing the area of Muslims" (I can fetch the diff for this statement), and there are editors who have dedicated most if not all of their edits to these views. Well all nationalisms can be criticized but the way this has panned out on wiki is … different than that. When more respectable editors end up taking their sides in disputes that are sensitive, it destroys relations. I believe in WP:AGF, I really do, but for the sake of the project, I would urge you to refrain from starting a move discussion on a sensitive page at a time like this, at least until some goodwill has been multilaterally established.-- Calthinus (talk) 18:07, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, some of the Balkan nationalisms are rather one-eyed. As I said, I will not start a move request. But when someone does start such discussions, it is tempting to try to put some objectivity into them. Usually, it does not help much, I'm afraid. Take care! --T*U (talk) 18:56, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Kalinthos, I saw your outburst aimed against me (diff) at Talk:Gjon Kastrioti. When I wanted to write comment about that edit of yours I saw this discussion and your another outburst above (diff). I just wanted to thank you for writing it. Thank you for clarification about authochtonous origin of Albanians, thank you for clarifying Albanian cultural purity and homogeneity. Thank you for explanation about their struggle against vicious Serbia who wanted to kill all Muslims. Thank you for your explanation that, unlike all other nations, Albanians are not imagined. Thank you for noticing that some editors do not follow that POV. Thank you for writing this comment which perfectly summarizes the issues at Albanian(s) related articles. Keep up the good work!

TU-nor Every nationalism is completely blind. Think about it before you are tempted to try to put some objectivity into editors who do not follow the POV of Balkan nationalism you do not perceive as one-eyed or completely blind. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:40, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Never once did I say "Serbia wanted to kill all Muslims" in the neighborhood (there is however, one user who I shall not name, who voiced their regret that such an event did not occur). Never once did I say "unlike all other nations, Albanians are not imagined" (but there are users who have stated that Albania is imagined while other Balkan nations are not). Never once did I assert Albanian "cultural purity and homogeneity" (but there was one user who [you gave "the Albanian Barnstar of National Merit"] two weeks after he said ["Albanian culture is rather poor"]). For crying out loud, I'm not even Albanian. Quit strawmanning me. To be honest I could report you for this. You, on the other hand, have indeed said some things that were um, tactless.-- Calthinus (talk) 21:48, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

@Resnjari and Ktrimi991: I have noticed you two remove Antidiskriminator's umm, friendly, messages from other users' pages. I request you do not do this here. This one should stay, as testament to the absurdity he puts people through with his strawman arguments, absurd misrepresentations, wikilawyering and all the rest of his demonstrations of brotherly love for other editors.-- Calthinus (talk) 21:55, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Both me and you know that your last comment is poorly disguised Wikipedia:Canvassing aimed to summon editors who share your POV in desperate attempt to create false narrative about my "disruptivness" which you intend to use against me. I wish you good luck with the report against me. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:36, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

No, there was a very significant chance that one of the two would have removed the message, especially given how Ktrimi removed your harassment message on Resnjari's talk page the other day [[3]]. Really even if I was dishonest, there would be no need for false narratives in a case about you. Will I be making one sometime soon? Probably not. Go enjoy life Anti, you only get one and you don't seem to be enjoying it on my talk page right now. Wiki drama can be a waste for us all. Sincerely,-- Calthinus (talk) 22:51, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

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