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Infoboxes

I saw your comment at the infobox discussion. The topic of infoboxes on certain featured article biography articles can be highly contentious. The editors who have spent significant time editing those articles are sometimes very passionately opposed (as you can see from the discussion) to adding infoboxes. Many of them are arguing against the use of links in infoboxes. It's a bit of battleground so it requires finding consensus from editors who haven't been arguing about it for decades. Rossini will likely eventually get an infobox, but it will be fiercely opposed like many other articles that eventually found consensus for inclusion. Nemov (talk) 17:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

I see, and I'm not particularly surprised. I have nothing to do with the Rossini article and don't want to get involved there. I'm just somewhat astonished that he (and many other composers?) don't seem to have an infobox when nearly any other article about a person beyond stub length has one. Hope it'll get sorted out over time! Gawaon (talk) 18:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I volunteer time on RFC discussions and I wasn't aware this was a thing until a year or so ago when infoboxes kept popping up in RFC notices. I was astonished as well, specifically at how nasty some editors were about the topic. It does appear to be getting sorted out over time. There's hope yet! Nemov (talk) 12:54, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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March music

story · music · places

Thank you for your support for a MoS change, saying: " The current wording "The use of infoboxes is neither required nor prohibited for any article" is thus clearly outdated and does not reflect reality." - Bach music for Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you 😊 Gawaon (talk) 22:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed, and a bit proud that I brought the woman's pic to lead and Main page), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the compromise in the composer's infobox? - How do you like the statue (see places)? I was undecided so show three versions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations on helping to bring that work and picture to the main page! So Aaron Copland's infobox is a compromise? It looks pretty good to me, in any case. Gawaon (talk) 09:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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MOS:NUMNOTES

"Comparable values nearby one another should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently." Holy (talk) 18:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's not meant to apply in cases where one number includes a fractional part and the other doesn't. These are, due to their different natures, not really comparable. Gawaon (talk) 19:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

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Holodomor

Considering the recently undone change. The point of adding the comment about Lemkin on top is to show that there are three things researchers disagree upon: - it is not a genocide - it is a genocide, but it targeted only a group of farmers and Ukrainian population was mainly farmers - it is a genocide, and it targeted Ukrainian nation as a whole, not just the farmers.

To me it's unclear, why should the first two points should be discussed in the top and the third point be presented separately in the body text, instead of belonging together. Krispe13 (talk) 14:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

To be more specific: the difference, between the second and third claim is that they differ not only by the scope of the target group, but also on the understanding of what Holodomor actually was in its essence: one focuses on collectivisation - directly and clearly targeting farmers, the other - on targeting the nation in terms of their religion/church, language/national intellectual elite, forcefully changing the self-identification of the group etc. Krispe13 (talk) 14:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Eventually, depending on the point of view - if Holodmor is a genocide of the farmers in the Soviet Union (not only Ukrainian), one would consider the famine in Kazakhstan a "Kazakh Holodomor" (or a part of Holodomor), while those who see Holodomor as a a genocide of Ukrainian nation, would then refer to the famine in Kazakhstan by its own unique name - Aşarşılıq, particularly considering that both had similarity as well as differences. Thus, would appreciate if you could help reflect that in the title or would agree that I would make an adjustment myself (maybe with better phrasing this time). Krispe13 (talk) 14:44, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I have now moved the text into the "Genocide question" section where it fits better. Keep in mind that the lead (the text before the first section header) is only for summaries of the article body (the rest of the text). Adding something there that's not also (in more detail) explained in the body is always wrong. If you disagree (but that's just a very basic and very general policy, not a matter of debate), let's continue the discussion on Talk:Holodomor, not here. Gawaon (talk) 15:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)