User talk:FrancescoMazzucotelli

Blue Mosque

As I see your edits are generally Ok. But I saw you added the Latin version to the Blue Mosque in tabriz. No languages in Iran use this Latin Alphabet that is invented in the republic of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijani language of Iran uses a version of perso-Arabic alphabet which is made for this language. Adding the Latin Alphabet from the republic of Azerbaijan to the Iranian sites brings a political message with itself. It is used by those who try to instigate hatred in Iran and by those extremist political groups in the republic of Azerbaijan and their supporters in the west, who hope to disintegrate Iran and get a portion of its territory. I believe you did not do it on purpose, but please be aware of the message it brings with itself.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 23:16, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

My Reply

Hello, and thanks for your message and your words of appreciation.
I am aware of the issues you mention, and frankly I do not wish to be involved at this stage in lenghty discussions about language policies, political use of languages and other issues of local politics. I am not endorsing, nor do I have a reason to endorse, that the Azeri language should, or shouldn't be written in a particular alphabet (whether Latin, Cyrillic or Perso-Arabic). As much as I respect your point of view, I see my edit purely as a matter of romanization/translitteration for the sake of clarity, since one can't assume that all the viewers of a site in English will be well versed in Arabic scripts. Persian isn't written in Latin either, but we include its transliteration for the sake of inclusiveness. I thought, and still think, that the same criterion, devoid of any other political connotation or conjecture, should be applied to the Azeri toponym/place name. Best regards, --FrancescoMazzucotelli (talk) 19:04, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Kathem El Saher

No problema, here is my reply:

Well, while there is no way to accurately represent a "ظ" in any language other than Arabic, we do try our best to bring that sound to Wikipedia readers who are not familiar with AR. Admittedly, a "ظ" is most often represented with a "Za" or "Dh" in most WP articles, but that's not the best way to go. A "Za" is how the "North African Arabic" would treat that letter, and especially Egyptian Arabic. So we have to agree to disagree here.

If we are to be completely accurate, here is what we should use "Kaðˤem".

Cheers!

Λuα ^{(Operibus anteire)} 20:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, you do actually bring up a very interesting point there; people perhaps won't think of it as in "the" although I wouldn't assume many non-Arabic speakers will be viewing the article. I stand corrected and support the move. :)

And oh yeah, thanks for the correction, you could have just edited my page directly, I wouldn't mind.

Cheers!

Λuα ^{(Operibus anteire)} 07:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

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