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Section on name changes[edit]

The section on name changes is currently a mess, with the list of villages possibly containing original research. "Gomanweb" is a personal webpage and is absolutely unreliable. It does probably contain valuable information nonetheless, so I am moving the list here for any user interested in sourcing it. --GGT (talk) 14:17, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Another note, Nişanyan's Index Anatolicus might be a useful tool for substantiating the list below for any interesting users. I unfortunately do not have the time to go through every single village right now, but the sourced re-addition of such a list to the mainspace will surely be useful. --GGT (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Xozat (Now called Navend)

Xozat (Now called Hozat)
Bargînî (Now called Karabakır)
Cemoler (Now called Balkaynar)
Derwêşcemal (Now called Dervişcemal)
Dêrik (Now called Sarısaltık)
Êrgan (Now called Geçimli)
Hopik / Hopikan (Now called Beşelma)
În (Now called İnköy)
Kirnîg (Now called Buzlupınar)
Lolan Tanêr (Now called Çaytaşı)
Pakira (Now called Dalören)
Qerece (Now called Karacaköy)
Taçkirag (Now called Kavuktepe)
Tanêr (Now called Türktanır)
Tawûx (Now called Kardelen / Tavuklar)
Torût (Now called Taşıtlı)
Xoşan (Now called Uzundal)
Zankirag (Now called Karaçavuş)
Zimêq (Now called Çığırlı)

Peyîg (Now called Çağlarca)

Aẍzûnîg / Axzûnîg (Now called Akpınar)
Încixan (Altınçevre)
Kilîse / Kîlise (Now called Yenidoğdu)
Mixsor (Now called Bilekli)
Peyîg (Now called Çağlarca)
Pixamî (Now called Alancık)
Qelecûx (Now called Kalecik)
Qorî (Now called Koruköy)
Samoşî (Now called Boydaş)
Sirtikan (Now called Yüceldi)
Qozlûce (Now called Kozluca)
Zoxer / Kavge (Now called Kurukaymak)

Mêzgir an Mazgêrd (Now called Mazgirt)
Çandûr (Now called Akyünlü)
Dîlano (Now called Koçkuyusu)
Germîsî (Now called Bulgurcular)
Gewan (Now called Gümüşgün)
Hasorîg (Now called Dazkaya)
Hezîrgeh (Now called Aşağıtarlacık)
Kaştûn (Now called Avunca)
Kelê (Now called Kale)
Kirzî (Now called Yazeli)
Lazwan (Now called Aslanyurdu)
Mezra Began (Now called Beylermezrası)
Qawûn (Now called Köklüce)
Qelaçî (Now called Kalaycı)
Qerextepe (Now called Kavaktepe)
Qocwanîs (Now called Demirkazık)
Qûrçik (Now called Doğanlı)
Reşmezre (Now called Oymadal)
Sindama Jêr (Now called Aşağıoyumca)
Sindama Jor (Now called Yukarıoyumca)
Şordê (Now called Ağaçardı)
Talebûran (Now called Danaburan)
Temirtax (Now called Temürtaht)
Tarpasor (Now called Yenibudak)
Xoskêx (Now called Alanyazı)

Çarsenceq (Now called Akpazar)

Çelxadan (Now called Ortadurak)
Demirciyan (Now called Demirci)
Garisan (Now called Karsan)
Goydepê (Now called Göktepe)
Hêwedan (Now called Ayvatlı)
Îsmaîlî (Now called İsmailli)
Îlalî / Îlano (?) (Now called Balkan)
Kurikan (Now called Obuzbaşı)
Lamkî (Now called Obrukkaşı)
Paxnîg (Now called Kepektaşı)
Pêr (Now called Akpazar)
Qere Ûsif (Now called Karayusuf)
Qêçiyan (Now called Kayacı)
Qizilcix (Now called Kızılcık)
Şomî (Now called Gelinpınar)
Xoşê (Now called Karşıkonak)

Moxindî (Now called Darikent)

Alxanan / Alxan (Now called Alhan)
Axkilîse (Now called Sökücek)
Beroc (Now called Dallıbel)
Bilan (Now called Özdek)
Canîg (Now called Aydınlık)
Çet (Now called Çatköy)
Coşik (Now called Anıtçınar)
Dawalî (Now called Beşoluk)
Dirban (Now called Kızılkale)
Ferec (Now called Akdüven)
Goma Ferec (?) (Now called Güleç)
Goman (Now called Yaşaroğlu)
Hulman (Now called Doğucak)
Karê (Now called Sülüntaş)
Kûpik (Now called Gelincik)
Lodek (Now called Kartutan)
Mankireg (Now called Kuşaklı)
Mestan (Now called Ortaharman)
Moxindî (Now called Darikent)
Mûrad / Îwê Mamud (Now called İbimahmut)
Pûlan (Now called Otlukaya)
Qeceran (Now called Dayılar)
Qurqurik (Now called Aktarla)
Quşxane (Now called Kuşhane)
Rîçik (Now called Geçitveren)
Şîlk (Now called Akkavak)
Şêxêk (?) / Şêxik (?) (Now called Koyunuşağı)
Şowag (Now called Yeldeğen)
Weliyan (Now called Ataçınarı)
Xirêwe (Now called Öreniçi)
Xiştan (Now called Sarıkoç)

Qisle (navend)

Qisle (Now called Nazimiye)
Azgilêre (Now called Güneycik)
Daxyan (Now called Kapıbaşı)
Dizik (Now called Demirce)
Gêris (Now called Geriş)
Holik (Now called Turnayolu)
Kervan (Now called Hanköy) (vala)
Khalferat (Now called Günlüce)
Kirîg (Now called Yiğitler)
Qil (Now called Kılköy)
Sorik (Now called Çevrecik)
Sow (Now called Sapköy)
Xosim (Now called Güzelpınar)

Xakis (Now called Büyükyurt)

Civrak / Civrag (Now called Sarıyayla)
Delav (Now called Beytaşı)
Deruye (Now called Dereova)
Keskûware (Now called Ayranlı)
Kimsor (Now called Yayıkağıl)
Koyê Serî (Now called Eğribilen)(vala)
Markasor (Now called Dokukaya)(vala)
Meskan (Now called Yaylacık)(vala)
Remedan (Now called Ramazanköy)
Xakis (Now called Büyükyurt)
Xilbês (Now called Oğullar)(vala)

Yeresk (Now called Dallıbahçe)

Deşt (Now called Doğantaş)
Bolciye (Now called Ballıca)
Çamûrek (Now called Ilısu) (vala)
Phonû (Now called Bostanlı)
Xarîga Binêne (Now called Aşağıdoluca)
Xarîga Serêne (Now called Yukarıdoluca)
Xodik (Now called Yazgeldi)
Yeresk (Now called Dallıbahçe)

Pulur now called Ovacık
Pêrtag now called Pertek

Pêrtag (Navend)

Coravan (Now called Çakırbahçe)
Çûçik (Now called Geçityaka)
Derelî (Now called Dereli)
Kawê (Now called Kolankaya)
Mercîmek (Now called Mercimek)
Saẍman / Saxman (Now called Sağman)
Tîl (Now called Korluca)
Zêvrag (Now called Demirsaban)
Zêwe / Zêwyan (Now called Dorutay)

Paxşang (Now called Pınarlar)

Avdan (Now called Çataksu)
Balişêr (Now called Çataksu)
Gados (Now called Karagüney)
Horîg (Now called Yukarıkayabaşı)
Margêk (Now called Günboğazı)
Misaderîç (Now called Yeğencik)
Paxşang (Now called Pınarlar)
Pirincî / Pirinciyan (Now called Pirinççi)
Qeceran (Now called Kacarlar)
Qoçpixar (Now called Qoçpixar)
Tanz (Now called Tozkoparan)
Vasgert (Now called Çalıözü)
Xarsîg (Now called Xarsîg)
Xaxî (Now called Konurat)
Xirnêk (Now called Çimenli)
Yênîko / Îngîko (?) (Now called Yeniköy)
Zimêq (Now called Sumak)

Hirmêkêx (Now called Dere)

Aẍzûnîg / Axzûnîg (Now called Kayabağ)
Cerxêk (Now called Yalınkaya)
Gulbarî (Now called Söğütlütepe)
Hirmêkêx (Now called Dere)
Qazelî (Kazûlû) (Now called Kazılı)
Poxterîs (Now called Poxterîs)
Saẍman Dêrsimî (Now called Ardıç)
Şûşang (Now called Bakırlı)
Sûrgûçiyan /Sûrgûç / Sûrgiç (Now called Sürgüç)
Ûlûpar (Now called Ulupınar)
Yêrindag (Now called Yamaçoba)

Avşker (Now called Akdemir)

Avşker / Avşeker (Now called Akdemir)
Baravan (Now called Çukurca)
Celedûr (Now called Bulgurtepe)
Doxikan (Now called Konaklar)
Koxpinîg (Now called Ballıdut)
Kurmeş (Now called Aşağıgülbahçe)
Orcan (Now called Yukarıgülbahçe)
Taxsiyan (Now called Gövdeli)
Titinîg (Now called Ayazpınar)

"Dersim Alevi Kurd"[edit]

I thought Alevis were Armenian, Zaza and Kurdish in Tunceli? So why it's called "POV" Beshogur (talk) 09:48, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Both Armenians and Kurds can be Alevi in Dersim, which includes those Kurds who speak the Zazaki or Kurmanji dialect of Kurdish. That is why the subheading was "Kurds" (to include those Kurdish people of both dialects) and then you have another subheading addressing Armenians. However, you seem to be going around Wikipedia and erasing evidence of Kurdish identity in a WP:TENDITIOUS way against WP:POV, which I would encourage you to stop doing as it will continue to be reverted. Redthoreau -- (talk) 19:33, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alevi Kurds =/= Zazas[edit]

Zazas are a distinct iranian group, different from Kurmanji Kurds. Zazaki(language of zazas) is not related to kurmanji in any way other than both stemming from iranian language family. It is extremely wrong to call zazas as "alevi zazaki speaking kurds" and it must be fixed

These people are making biased changes. In the section on Turks and Zaza, the sources are more than the section on Armenians. They are fraudulently enough to even remove the Yellow Saltuk Mausoleum that is visible.Despite being Armenian, Sevan Nişanyan says that Zazas and Turks are more. The name of this place is Semsuripedi, because he wipes it according to his head.Racists who made changes in Semsuri and other sides should be prevented because they are not neutral.You should block these people.They's act is called Cunning and Fraud.I personally am Tuncelian. The changes made by these racists have nothing to do with the facts.He is completely propaganda. Real historians and people who are after knowledge had noticed their lies beforehand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulasgoc (talk • contribs) 13:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why should information on the past significant presence of Armenians before the genocide be removed? --Semsurî (talk) 13:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

== Genocide

Name changes[edit]

There are ten citations to the second sentence under the subtitle "Name changes". Isn't a few citations enough? It's an overkill and looks messy. 92.44.208.98 (talk) 12:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dersim is not part of Kurdistan[edit]

Dersim is part of Kırmanciye. Kırmanciye is land of Alevi-Zaza. 217.131.231.180 (talk) 22:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]