Talk:Tayap language

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Pandanus language[edit]

@Kwemsawir: Please stop removing information supported by reliable sources. You note that the source from Kulick does not mention it, however absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. A reliable source mentions it, so it should be included. If you have a source that specifically states that Taiap does not have a pandanus register, then that should also be included. Also you can tone down your remarks in your edit comments. Try to act a little more politely, please. --awkwafaba (📥) 03:36, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kwemsawir: You were right about Tayap having no pandanus register, and the source was actually wrong.

However, entire tables were removed without any explanations offered. Please do not do so without explaining why on this talk page, or otherwise that would be considered to be vandalism. This is the last good version: [1]. — Sagotreespirit (^talk) 18:38, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 March 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 20:37, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taiap language → Tayap language – Taiap has been renamed as Tayap by Don Kulick in his 2019 book, A Grammar and Dictionary of Tayap. Kulick is the main authority on this language, as he has been working on it for over 30 years. — Sagotreespirit (^talk) 00:35, 16 March 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. Jerm (talk) 14:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom: this is the spelling used in the most recent and most extensive work on the language. – Uanfala (talk) 15:00, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I support this Kwemsawir (talk) 21:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per the above. BD2412 T 16:25, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Potential plagiarism[edit]

The "Grammar" section contains the following paragraph:

"There is a fundamental distinction in verbal morphology between realis and irrealis stems and suffixes. Grammatical relations are marked by verbal suffixes, which distinguish Subject/Agent (S/A) and Object (O). In some conjugations S/A is marked by discontinuous morphemes. Free pronouns and noun phrases mark the ergative case (A) compared to unmarked forms for the absolutive (S/O). As in many Papuan languages which have an ergative case, the ergative marker is optional and is frequently omitted."

That is an unattributed, direct word-for-word copy from Kulick's "Grammar and Dictionary of Tayap" book, page 25, without any kind of credit given for those words. I have not extensively checked the other sections for direct word-for-word copies like that, so it can very well be that that occurs in more places than that paragraph.

94.114.224.150 (talk) 00:30, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have just reworded the paragraph and provided attribution (I did not insert the paragraph by the way). — Sagotreespirit (^talk) 13:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]