Talk:Tawfik Hamid

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temp page[edit]

The following was taken from the temp page:

Tawfik Hamid is from Egypt and was born into a Muslim family.

External links

Tawfik's bio on the website for The Intelligence Summit

Is any of this relevant in this new article?--Sefringle 23:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's this by Tawfik Hamid: The Trouble With Islam I can't shake thinking I heard about him starting a counterorganization to CAIR down in Phoenix, AZ, and having something to do with the secular Islam summit down in Florida a few months ago.66.8.139.9 07:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This person is more than notable[edit]

First, thanks to Cltfn for starting this article. This person is more than notable. He's in radio shows, and in talks and so much more. I've removed the tag. We do need an expansion though which refers to these external sources but this is great for now. --Matt57 19:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added additional bibliographic material[edit]

I've added references to Dr. Hamid's WSJ editorials and his piece at the Hudson institute.Ysageev (talk) 21:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AAZ[edit]

Other than Hamid's rambling, I'm not sure I recall Zawahiri ever leading al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya - he was still active with AJ during GI's heyday. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 22:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ayman led Islamic Jihad, not Gama'a Islamiyya, correct. Doesn't say much about this fellows credibility that he makes such a claim. I've been trying to figure out which year he claims to have been a member of GI. Everything he says in public is frustratingly vague -- which mosques in Egypt, which GI member recruited him, what year, what month, where precisely did this all take place?Bali ultimate (talk) 15:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In his book, he says an amir named "Muchtar" and a cleric named Muhammad Omar were the ones who first recruited him. As for Zawahiri leading Jamaa Islamiya (the transliteration he uses), he does not make such a claim at all. In his book he talks about al-Zawahiri as a guest imam. He says "he was active in a number of Islamist groups, so he did not devote his time exclusively to Jamaa". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.212.52.47 (talk) 17:50, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dates of terrorist association[edit]

Can we have the dates of when he joined and left? Faro0485 (talk) 23:32, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't appear to have ever provided any specific and therefore verifiable information about his supposed membership in GI ever.Bali ultimate (talk) 15:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His bio says he tried to preach his peaceful message in mosques. I'd like to see a mosque that allows medical students who haven't received any religious education,to preach. This claim alone makes one question his credibility.

Qualifications[edit]

I went to his site regarding his qualifications, and he states he got his Masters from the University of Auckland. Their graduate search, however, under both names, comes up with nothing for all degrees.

https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/for/current-students/cs-academic-information/cs-graduation-information/cs-graduation-search-and-confirmation/cs-graduation-search-results.html

I also noticed something else- on the Potomac institute site, he says he has a masters in cognitive psychology and educational techniques. But looking further, on his page he states he has a MLit (Edu), which University of Auckland states as a Masters in Literature with a speciality in Education- not cognitive psychology.

https://www.auckland.ac.nz/study-options/programmes/postgraduate/6945/master-of-literature-mlitt

Edit- found more information after contacting the university directly. He actually graduated with a Masters in Literature, not cognitive psychology. Graduated in 17 Nov 1997, under the full name of Tarek Mohamed Abdel Hamid.

This is troubling. His site states contrasting evidence:

"Dr. Hamid obtained his medical degree in Internal Medicine from Cairo University and a Master’s Degree in Cognitive Psychology and Educational Techniques from The University of Auckland School of Medicine and Health Science, New Zealand. Dr. Hamid is recognized for developing one of the most innovative Cognitive Psychology models, The Multi-Dimensional Learning Model."

"Currently Dr. Hamid MD, MLit (Edu) is a Senior Fellow at the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies (PIPS)."

Which one is it, a Masters in Literature, or a Masters in Cognitive Psychology?

Thanks for that. I made it clearer by directly citing the correct qualifications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coldwayz (talk • contribs) 04:26, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The link provided as evidence is troubling as evidence. Removal of qualification? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coldwayz (talk • contribs) 06:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Remove anything not supported by a reliable secondary source, especially exceptional claims. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:17, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Added critique section[edit]

As Hamid has been critiqued by a notable scholar and a notable blog, I thought it may be worth adding in a critique section. Please edit at will. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coldwayz (talk • contribs) 04:27, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is no indication the blog is notable and the link to the scholar did not support the statements made. Edward321 (talk) 04:47, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted edit; linked Google Books with direct link to quote. As for notability, the fact that the blog has a Wikipedia page in itself is some indication that it is notable. Will leave out for now.

The link to scholar is correct, it can be seen on google books.VR _talk 00:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tawfik Hamid along with Walid Shoebat is in the business of making money by selling Islamophobia. He does not have any basic Islamic education background, let alone about Qur’an and Hadith. His education is in the field of medicine/medical related field. No one has been able to verify him to be ex-terrorist, or ex Jama’at (Gemaah) Islami or ex Ikhwanul Muslimin member.

Alizashahab (talk) 16:38, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

IslamforPeace.org[edit]

I'm not sure if everything on IslamforPeace.org necessarily represents Hamid's views. That website is also dead. It seems better to remove that source from this page.VR _talk 23:53, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If there are no objections, I will go ahead and remove the content sourced to that website from the article.VR _talk 00:56, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]