Talk:Rouran language

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Pamela Kyle Crossley (2019)[edit]

@Wario-Man: An unregistered user has again introduced the information that, to me, is rather encyclopedic, but I have no access to the source to check if there is any way to rephrase it to make it fit better or if this should just be removed altogether. Since you've reverted that edit once, can you give a look into it? Similar edits exist in Rouran Khaganate and the source is used in simple:Ruanruan, but for a slightly different claim. - Sarilho1 (talk) 09:10, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarilho1: The reason why I reverted IP's edit was because of bad usage of "ref" but the edit itself was OK. You can access the book/source here and copy-edit/neutralize the used content if you think it's necessary: page 49, last paragraph Another point is this article was targeted by Special:Contributions/AsadalEditor and Special:Contributions/MeLoveGames (both are long-term sockmasters) and some other problematic IPS/users, so you better review and verify the whole content of article. You may consider rewriting it. --Wario-Man (talk) 13:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ruanruan seems to be an ethnic slur.[edit]

Rouran people used Rouran (柔然) as an autonym, while the Northern Wei regime，established by Xianbei people, called them Ruanruan (蠕蠕). As the character 蠕 is written with a 虫 (hui3, insect; bug) radical, it is very seemingly that the term Ruanruan is an ethnic slur. Hence, I suggest to move the page to Rouran language.--Cosinepi-fly (talk) 16:09, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'd support this. Theknightwho (talk) 22:40, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also to add to this:

It makes sense for the name to match the term we use for Rouran Khaganate, since that was where it was spoken. "Ruanruan Khaganate" is a term that's also used in literature, but we don't even mention it on that page. Clearly the names used for the polity and the language should match if there's no obvious common name.
Rouran is used twice as much, according to the literature. It's also trivial to find recent uses of the term in reference to the language.

Theknightwho (talk) 18:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]