Talk:Northern California/Archive 1

Basic definition

--208.201.235.226 17:57, 28 August 2006 (UTC)÷208.201.235.226 17:57, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Beverly The Southern California article defines itself as the eight counties south of Central California. But this article ignores the existence of Central California, and says its the area north of Southern California. Granted, these are vague definitions, but they should at least be consistent. (I mentioned this on the Southern California page already.) Mackerm 22:37, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

There are really 5 different major areas that Californians identity and refer to, Southern California (as given), Northern California (the Central valley extending from around Chico to Bakersfield), the Sierra Nevada, the Central Coast (extending from about Monterey to about San Luis Obispo or Santa Barbara), and the Bay Area (the SF/Oakland metro area). People from Northern California are particularly put out of shape when people include SF/Oakland in "Northern California", because then everyone assumes they're from the Bay Area instead of the valley.User:4.30.44.192 , 30 Jan 2005

You're saying that "Northern California" is equivalent to "Central Valley"? Mackerm 23:17, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

People from the Bay Area would be extremely puzzled if they were told they are not from Northern California. -- hike395 23:59, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

It seems to me that the North/South divide is primarily a cultural one. That said, the East/West divide, though less frequently spoken of, is perhaps far greater. San Franciscans and Los Angelinos have far more in common with one another than either group does with the Riversiders or the Mono County Folk. The Wikipedia article for Eastern California splits off San Bernardino, Riverside, and Imperial counties from S. Cal and tacks them onto E. Cal, which, it notes, apart from being drier and more sparsely populated, is culturally far more conservative. It seems to me (a native S. Californian) that when people think of Central California, they are typically thinking of the San Joaquin Valley. This region seems independent of the Bay Area and Los Angeles cultures respectively. It hot, very middle-of-nowhere, and cities like Bakersfield, Fresno, Modesto, and Stockton maintain their own radio and television stations (a dubious definition for cultural independence, perhaps, but...). It seems folly to me to define the entire Central Valley as N. Cal. The N. half, the Sac Valley, seems very linked to Bay culture and what I think of as N. Cal culture (stocky looking guys with goatees running about saying such nonsense words as "hella"), but the S. half, the San Joaquin, seems a region apart. Same for the Central Coast. Perhaps we should define the broad cultural regions as follows: S. Cal (San Diego, Orange, LA, Ventura), Central Coast (btwn Santa Barbara and Santa Cruz), San Joaquin (or Central, see article for list of counties), E. Cal (see article for list of Counties) and N. Cal. All in all, it is hard for a S. Californian to care that much. If you force S. Bernardino, Riverside, and Imperial on us, I suppose we'll take them with reservations, but either way, N. Cal begins, for us, above Ventura. LordSnow 11:12, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I so very much hate that word. It needs to go away. Oh god, there is even an article on it, Hella (slang) die. die. die. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:40, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

You and me both, brother. I'm going to school in Davis now-- can't seem to get away from it. Every damned place I go it's hella this and hella that. Why don't these people realize how stupid they sound?LordSnow 22:00, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Im from NorCal and i do say that. Not very much, but sometimes its funny to see someone give you a weird look when you say "That's hecka cool!" as a joke (I live in Australia). I don't understand why people get "hella" pissed about it though, since we grow up saying it. It's almost entertaining though to see people from SoCal flip out about it (if not irritating). Scphae5 07:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

208.201.235.226 17:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Beverly Is the "N" capitalized in the phrase Northern California?

Boudary

The company I work for counts anything north of zip code 93591 as "Northern California." And Anything south of it as "Southern California." I don't know if this is arbritary or of it is based no some kind of commercial understanding of California. But I thought I'd put it up here for further comment. --Measure 20:40, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Higher Education

I added SRJC to the list of schools because I saw another community college already on the list (CR). However, looking at the lengthy list of schools at California Community Colleges system, do we want to make this list 4-year schools only? Dori 00:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)