Talk:Kütahya Province

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History

The Turkish page for the Kutahya Province is much more developed. I suggest to translate parts of Kutahya Province’s early history from the Turkish page and add it here. In addition, I suggest to add new information about the historical nomadic tribes in the region. Wintersflower (talk) 09:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)Wintersflower

Hi @Wintersflower: please, by all means, go ahead! :) Any constructive edits are always welcome, and I quite agree that this is a very short stub relative to the 'importance' of the subject. Just bear in mind that in what comes to references and sources, the standards vary between the different language wikis; therefore, what might be acceptable on the Turkish wiki may not be so here, or vice versa (in my limited experience, the English-language wiki has probably the strictest criteria, at least of the few I've come across). So please take care to ensure that your edits are supported by good citations from reliable sources. Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

I plan on adding the information below under history. It includes information about Kütahya’s early history and its ancient civilizations. This part is a translation from the Turkish version of the article. Also, there is brand new information about the nomadic tribes of Kütahya. It includes details about the tribes’ names and population numbers.

"Kütahya’s history extends as far back to the years 3000 BC, although the specific date of its establishment is unknown. According to old sources, Kütahya’s name during the ancient eras was recorded as Kotiaeon, Cotiaeum and Koti. The Phrygians are the oldest group of people to have settled in the province’s lands. The Phrygians, who came to Anatolia in 1200’s BC, entered the Kingdom of Hittite’s lands and organized themselves into a government. In 676 BC, by defeating the Phrygians King Midas III, the Cimmerians took control of Kütahya and its surroundings.

During the time when Alyattes was the king of Lydia, the Lydians took over the Cimmerian’s rule. In 546 BC, the Parsis defeated the Lydian army and invaded Anataolia. After defeating the Parsis near Biga Stream in 334 BC, Alexander the Great established domination over the region. Kütahya and its regions passed on to Alexander the Great’s general Antigonos after his death in 323 BC. In 133 BC, it joined under the Roman Empire’s governance. It was then made an episcopal center.

In 1078, the founder of the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum Suleyman ibn Qutalmish captured Kütahya. It was attacked by the Crusaders in 1097. Kilij Arslan II re-captured Kütahya along with other lost lands. The city was lost again to the Byzantines due to fights over the throne after Kilij Arslan II’s death. During Aladdin Kayqubad I’s rule, it became part of the Seljuk’s territories (cite 4 and 5). In 1277, Giyaseddin Kaykhusrev II of the Germiyanids gave his daughter Devlet Hatun’s hand in marriage to the Ottoman Sultan Murad I’s son Yildirim Bayezid. As part of her dowry, Kütahya and its surroundings were also given to the Ottomans. However, in 1402 Bayezid was defeated by Timur at the Battle of Ankara and lost Kütahya to Timur. Timir gave the province to back to Yakup Bey II of the Germiyanids. Kütahya later joined the Ottoman Empire and became a sanjak (district) capital in 1429. Content in this edit is translated from the existing Turkish Wikipedia article at tr:Kütahya (il); see its history for attribution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wintersflower (talk • contribs) 09:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

"Based on historical records by geographer Ibn Said, there was a population of 30,000 nomads living in the area of Kütahya during the second half of the 13th century.

During the 16th century, the nomadic tribes tied to the Ottomans were the Akkeçili, Kılcan, Bozguş, Müselleman-ı Toplu, Akkoyunlu, Avşar, Kayı and Çobanlar. There were also several nomadic tribes who acted independently.

In 1571, the nomadic population in Kütahya had a total of 25,317 soldiers. In comparison, Kütahya’s settled population had 72,447 soldiers during the same year.

Although these were traditionally nomadic people, it is found that many transitioned between nomadic and settled life during the 16th century. This is similar to the general practice of move from nomadic to settled life among the tribes in Western Anatolia in this century. Even though these tribal populations settled, they were still referred to as “Yörüks” or nomads in documents. This is the case even in situations where it was clearly recorded that they have settled. " Wintersflower (talk) 08:40, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Wintersflower

References

Kütahya Food Culture and Cuisine

Hello, I noticed that the English Wikipedia article for Kütahya Province does not have information about the local cuisine.

I have done research and written up this information I that I think will be very beneficial:

"A large portion of Kütahya’s nutrition and food culture is based on home goods, with wheat products, dough products, and dairy products forming the foundation of the local diet. The most consumed foods in the region are erişte, a type of homemade pasta, bulgur and tarhana, especially kızılcık tarhanası. Bulgur and tarhana hold a prominent place in the local cuisine as they are products that are consumed on a daily basis. Dough goods also make up a large part of Kütahya’s cusine. For instance, well-known local dishes of Kütahya are cimcik, a type of pasta, haşhaşlı pide, şibit and gözleme .

Kütahya’s food culture was predominantly based on home goods. The local population depended on what they produced at home and rarely bought from outside sellers, such as markets. However, this has changed in recent times as the population became more urbanized. Now, more and more people buy daily food necessities, such as bread, from the market or bakeries. Nevertheless, the population continues to practice staple food traditions. For instance, vegetables, such peppers, beans, and eggplants, are still harvested during the summer time and dried in preparation for the winter. Similarly, the local population continues to prepare food products that are consumed on a daily basis, such as tomato paste, erişte, tarhana, and pickles, at home."

Some of the dishes mentioned here have Wikipedia pages, so I will hyperlink them. WindermerePeaks (talk) 12:31, 7 November 2020 (UTC)WindermerePeaks

References

Kütahya Fine Porcelain and Ceramics

Ceramics is a very important aspect of Kütahya's history, culture, and economy. However, this page does not have any information pertaining to the topic. I think it would be beneficial to create a "Kütahya Ceramics" section in this Wikipedia page. WindermerePeaks (talk) 09:11, 28 October 2020 (UTC)WindermerePeaks

I have done research about fine porcelain in Kütahya and have written up this information that I think will enrich the article:

"Historians state that fine porcelain art began in Kütahya from the Chalcolithic Age (B.C. 5500-3000), which is also known as the Mineral-Stone Age. Due to the presence of rich clay deposits in its surroundings, the production of ceramics was also intense during the Phyrigian, Helenistic, Roman and Byzantium periods. This art form is still traditionally practiced in present day.

In the Ottoman period, Kütahya was the second production center for fine porcelain after Iznik. While the first fine porcelain samples started to be seen in Kütahya at the end of the 14th century, the real progress started after the second half of the 16th century when Iznik was at the peak of fine porcelain art. Fine porcelain ateliers were established in Kütahya specifically to meet Istanbul’s fine porcelain needs. During this period, in addition to the decline of the Ottoman Empire, fine porcelain making in Iznik began to decline at the same pace. With the disappearance of fine porcelain art in Iznik during the 18th century, Kütahya became the only place operating in this field. The most recent examples of fine porcelain from the Ottoman Empire was produced by Hafız Mehmed Emin Efendi, a fine porcelain master from Kütahya who made great contributions to the development of fine porcelain art." WindermerePeaks (talk) 12:22, 7 November 2020 (UTC)WindermerePeaks

References

Sites of interest

sites of interest for an entire province, especially when they are unlinked and no idea where in the province or why they are of interest, are too general. Moved to talk, along with the tag for it being a laundry list RJFJR (talk) 03:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

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Aizanoi ruins in Çavdarhisar

• Forest recreation areas
  • Çamlica
  • Murat Dagi
  • Hisarliktepe
  • Ebem Çamligi
  • Gölcük Yaylasi
  • Nafia Spring
• Hot springs
  • Harlek
  • Yoncali
  • Mt. Murad
  • Eynal
• Aizanoi antique city ruins
• Kütahya Castle
• Vacidiye old theological school (Medrese)
• Grand Mosque of Kütahya
• Mosque complexes
  • Yakup II Bey
  • Ishak Fakih
  • Molla Bey
• Mosques
  • Balikli
  • Kursunlu
  • Dönenler
  • Arslan Bey (Meydan)
  • Hisarbeyoglu Mustafa (Saray)
  • Takvacilar
  • Karagöz Ahmed Pasha
  • Lala Hüseyin Pasha
  • Ali (Alo) Pasha
• Grand and Small Bazaars
• Baths
  • Küçükhamam
  • Lala Hüseyin Pasha
• Kütahya Museum
• Dumlupinar Monument

Population and date

What did I wrong by correcting of population and date? My correction is not to see in the infobox. Regards -- Sweepy (talk) 19:52, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

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