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About the oil

The lead describes the economy and says "Oil exploration, licensed by the Falkland Islands Government, remains controversial as a result of maritime disputes with Argentina". Do those controversies have an actual impact on the economy, or do the islanders just do their business as normal while Argentina protests? If it is the second, perhaps the line should be moved to the paragraph about the dispute, and explain the economy as its own thing. Or just removed: the sections "Economy" and "Sovereignty dispute" do not mention the protests about the oil exploration.

Besides, I remember that some years ago the islands announced that they found oil reserves (or something similar to that, it was many years ago), and the newspapers exploded with protests. But is there a formal and legal dispute somewhere about the oil, or was it just the usual political bickering? There's the sovereignty dispute itself, right, but at this moment and unless something changes it is the Falklands who have the sovereignty, and that includes the legal right to the explotation of everything within that territory, including the oil. Unless the oil dispute goes through another path, unrelated to the main dispute, we could also say that the controversy has simply died down. Cambalachero (talk) 18:33, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Only if RS say it. Slatersteven (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Well, I don't know the topic in much detail, that's why I'm asking those questions. Cambalachero (talk) 18:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I think it's normal for the dispute (and relationship with South American politics, culture, geography, etc.) to appear in other parts of the article besides the SD section. It's a part of the reality of the Falklands. Since we are also bringing up the economy, it might be good to update any recent economic developments, perhaps related to the COVID pandemic? Are there any updates to the oil situation?--MarshalN20 ^✉🕊 16:01, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Plural or singular?

If anyone is interested, I mentioned this article on the talk page of New Zealand outlying islands regarding the use of 'is' or 'are'. It seems we here are in a minority among similar articles in using 'is'. I recall the discussion arose here when the use of 'is' was preferred. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 18:32, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

There are others, e.g. Cayman Islands or Pitcairn Islands. I assume it's because the first sentence describes the subject as "an archipelago", which is singular. Hut 8.5 18:54, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Edits reverted

@Roger 8 Roger - You are correct for reverting my edit as I just realised that they were the same company. I deleted the link too fast without looking properly. But I think the "Falkland Islands Company" link should be replaced with the actual link for the Falkland Islands Company, instead of it linking to its parent company established in 1997. It would make more sense to link it to the 1851 company since that section of the page is talking about 1851. DDMS123 (talk) 03:01, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I'll leave it up to you. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 03:12, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I've changed the link. DDMS123 (talk) 03:14, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2023

The spelling in Spanish. Change Spanish: Islas Malvinas [ˈizlaz malˈβinas]) for Spanish: Islas Malvinas [ˈislas malˈβinas]) 85.57.198.23 (talk) 03:45, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Not done, can you cite a source for that change? WCM_email 09:07, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

The phoneme /z/ doesn't exist in standard Spanish, and is unsourced here. The IPA page for Spanish does not even include /z/, though I think it might be possible as an allophone of the first /s/ for some dialects. Other island groups on here have /islas/ see Galapagos, although Balearic Islands has /izlaz/. I think the IP is correct here.Boynamedsue (talk) 03:08, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Having checked various linguistics texts, many pronunciation guides give /s/ > /z/ as the correct pronunciation before a voiced consonant like /l/ and /m/, which would mean /izlaz malBinaz/ is correct. I'm fairly sure that this is not universal, more complicated across word boundaries, and that a strong case exists for using /s/ in line with our own policies on English /t/ and post-vocalic /r/. But I am no longer confident enough to change this without a source.Boynamedsue (talk) 03:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

[z] was removed from the Help:IPA/Spanish key a few days ago following a talk page discussion. The request wasn't correct in view of MOS:PRON when it was made, but it is now. Nardog (talk) 21:47, 29 April 2023 (UTC)