Talk:Chris LaCivita

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Someone just replaced the article with new but possibly accurate material Dec 2006[edit]

Someone just replaced the existing article with what looks like Chris LaCivita's official PR bio: [1]

I am reverting this change--no published source of encyclopedia quality is offered for even one of its many statements of fact. If such sources are in print or on the web, such material would be useful, assuming one also removed the inappropriate pro-LaCivita POV.

On the other hand, the anti-LaCivita POV of the existing article is just as inappropriate. I'm flagging it in the hope others will improve it. betsythedevine 20:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

---Believe the article has been corrected. Outdated, inaccurate information was there. There's a link to the official bio at Crosslink Strategy. Just because we don't like someone's politics is no reason to allow old, outdated information to stand in its place. I'll look for additional sources and add to the bio.User:MediaLizzy 26 December 2006

Just because we do or don't like someone's politics is no reason to remove accurate information about his public statements and appearances in the press. Wikipedia's standard for what's an appropriate source of encyclopedia quality doesn't include anyone's "official bio" on a company website. WP:NOR Please find and cite appropriate sources for each fact about LaCivita you want to add. WP:REF Please refrain from adding items with no such pedigree. Feel free to update "old" information, for example by mentioning that George Allen lost his Senate seat in 2006. betsythedevine 02:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Betsy - you have blogged extensively about Terry Nelson and LaCivita. You most definitely do not have a NPOV. Adding citations regarding LaCivita without disclosure of this fact nullifies your arguments for Fairness. There is no citation for the information regarding the civil suit associated with the Tobin case. Please provide. User:MediaLizzy 27 December 2006

Fairness is not nullified--neither is Wikipedia policy--because you question the motivation of other editors. Wikipedia is not edited by nuns meditating in mountaintop convents about pure air--it's edited by enthusiasts who try (sometimes unsuccessfully) to write balanced unprejudicial information about people they may well have POV about. The best source for information about the civil suit associated with the phone-jamming is the Manchester Union Leader, which unfortunately puts articles behind a paid firewall within a few weeks after their appearance. I am not the author of, or even a major contributor to, Wikipedia's Phonegate article, if that's the article you're asking for citations on. The Boston Globe has some still-online coverage of its resolution: [2] Look, there's no reason for you and me to fight. I'd like the article on Chris LaCivita to be informative and neutral in tone. Right now, it's lurching from side to side, between political polemic against him and a biography puffing up his successes while failing to mention other parts of his history. betsythedevine 23:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New addition of flattering material with no citation of encyclopedia-quality source, October 2007[edit]

Here's a puzzling addition by an unregistered user whose only interest seems to be this biography, 68.48.142.107. No citation is given for its multiple claims. The material seems to be original research in addition to problems with WP:NPOV. I removed the material, its author Undid my removal. I'll post a note on the user's Talk Page about this matter. betsythedevine 12:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contested addition: Chris was born in suburban Pittsburgh, Pa., his father's hometown. His mother, a suburban Philadelphia girl and graduate of Archbishop Prendergast High School in Upper Darby, met his father at Villanova University, where they both worked for the Catholic Library Association. Chris' father, a Duquesne University graduate and public relations executive, moved the family from Pittsburgh to Bon Air, Va., an affluent, leafy suburb of Richmond, when Chris was 12. He and his brothers, having attended Catholic schools from first to eighth grades, attended Midlothian High School in the neighboring village of Midlothian, Va. Chris was raised in a traditional home and taught traditional values by his parents, who stressed the importance of faith, integrity, honesty, and charity.

'Code Pink and the rest of the liberal weirdos"[edit]

A Chris LaCivita quote that is neither "unsourced" nor "poorly sourced" has now twice been removed from this article. In response to criticism of GOP actions, LaCivita described his intended response: "When are we going to make it about Code Pink and the rest of the liberal weirdos controlling the Democrat agenda?" [3] To my mind, this quote illuminates the kind of scorched-earth polaraization politics that has characterized LaCivita's career. Somebody has now twice removed this quote with the explanation that it is "self agrandizing." There is no policy I know that requires the removal of boastful quotes if they are attributed and inside quotation marks. Could some third party comment on this dispute? 05:44, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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