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A pile of racist Turkish war-time Propaganda Crap...

Needs to be rewritten by people who are in touch with real history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nesij (talk • contribs) 12:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On 19 May 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Ethem Psheu to Çerkes Ethem. The result of the discussion was moved.

"Turkish Neo-Nazi groups calling for genocide of Circassians"[edit]

When I read the part "Turkish Neo-Nazi groups from time to time brought up Çerkes Ethem and called for a massacre or genocide of Circassians." I burst into laughter as someone who lives in Turkey, since I have never heard of any Neo-Nazi groups calling for a Circassian Genocide in my entire life. Only person that was actually racist about them that I know is Nihal Atsız, which also didn't make any genocide calls. Anyway, I checked the source "Haber: Kendisine Ataman Kardeşliği diyen Faşistler kimler?" or in English "News Article: Who Are the Fascists Named 'Ataman Brotherhood'?" As you can see, the person who put the source didn't really name the newspaper they took it from. Upon a search of the article title, I couldn't find an article with the exact same title. However I could find a little bit of media coverage about them. Apparently, these people has a YouTube channel that has 1 video with 4,6k views and I couldn't find any other social media account, which is I think enough evidence that this group is really small. Also, their racism seems to mostly be against refugees. I couldn't find any comment from them about that Circassian genocide or Çerkes Ethem told in the Wikipedia article here. Honestly, I can't think of any reason for adding this information to this article, other than wanting to make Turks seem bad. Kursemaster (talk) 22:24, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 May 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) --lettherebedarklight – 晚安 (おやすみなさい)。 08:17, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ethem Psheu → Çerkes Ethem – This was probably moved without a request. Also this name doesn't appear in any book. See also ngram. Apparently by Adigabrek (talk · contribs). Beshogur (talk) 22:38, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Was also surprised by this name. As Çerkes Ethem I have read in several sources about him.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.